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(January 2015)

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Blake Connolly Founding member
There was an episode of a CBBC show which was supposed to look like it had film scratches and was guaranteed to make at least one person in Playout jump up and worry about white lines on the screen the first five or six times it was shown.
NG
noggin Founding member
At the BBC you would normally mention anything you know about (shash effects, colour bars, tone, fake rewinding effects, fades or cuts to black etc.) when lining up with Presentation for a live show, and make sure they are detailed in your delivery paperwork for a recorded show.
But nobody ever tells CCA or coding & mux! Smile

There was one occasion when someone in SCAR called up and asked if we had anything which could generate some analogue shash - we had an old SVHS VCR which could, and a PAL to SDI converter, so sent it down a tieline as requested. Half the people in the room still jumped when it showed up a couple of hours later on a Newsround VT...


Very fair point.

Historically it was always a pain generating synchronoush 'shash'... (I always had a BetaSP tape of it just in case - which got used quite a lot...)
DA
davidhorman
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Historically it was always a pain generating synchronoush 'shash'


And it's even harder to say it.
IS
Inspector Sands
Getting 'shash' or static got increasing difficult as video recorders got more clever. Later ones would blank out a lack of signal, either on the tape or tuner, with a blue screen.

I had a nice collection of digital shash tucked away on the server of a previous employer, clipped up whenever I saw it appear at the end of a feed. It got used a lot
NG
noggin Founding member
Getting 'shash' or static got increasing difficult as video recorders got more clever. Later ones would blank out a lack of signal, either on the tape or tuner, with a blue screen.

I had a nice collection of digital shash tucked away on the server of a previous employer, clipped up whenever I saw it appear at the end of a feed. It got used a lot


It was always a pain in analogue days as it didn't have sync pulses, so you'd have to find a way of getting it through a synchroniser, and because it didn't have sync pulses clamps did odd things to it etc. Having a recording of it was gold dust!
IS
Inspector Sands
I remember at uni doing it on a professional SVHS edit suite by just playing a blank tape in one and recording it in the other. That gave me a recording of shash stable enough to edit with and key graphics over

Wish i'd kept it!
NG
noggin Founding member
I remember at uni doing it on a professional SVHS edit suite by just playing a blank tape in one and recording it in the other. That gave me a recording of shash stable enough to edit with and key graphics over

Wish i'd kept it!


Suspect there was a TBC or vision mixer with built-in synchroniser that stabilised it enough.
DV
dvboy
Back to Mel & Sue and they've been promoting the website on screen as:

itv.com
stv.tv


all week, but today Sue Perkins verbally promoted it as "itv.com/stv.tv" ie "forward slash" in the middle

Not sure why they are including stv.tv and not u.tv as it's also on UTV and secondly I noticed yesterday on the STV website there was no reference to the show anyway.
:-(
A former member
Did ITV also cut out at the very end of Mel and sue after the credits?
BA
bazinga
dvboy posted:
Back to Mel & Sue and they've been promoting the website on screen as:

itv.com
stv.tv


all week, but today Sue Perkins verbally promoted it as "itv.com/stv.tv" ie "forward slash" in the middle

Not sure why they are including stv.tv and not u.tv as it's also on UTV and secondly I noticed yesterday on the STV website there was no reference to the show anyway.

I was going to say, usually they only advertise UTV if there is a mention on the website. The same with STV.
SA
samwsmith1
Did ITV also cut out at the very end of Mel and sue after the credits?

Yes it did, with an apology.
IS
Inspector Sands
Did ITV also cut out at the very end of Mel and sue after the credits?

Looks like they got stuck and couldn't cut away from the feed of the programme

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