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WH
Whataday Founding member
Mouseboy33 posted:
True, but you actually think OFCOM seriously looked at Canada's ChannelZero bid? I dont think so. Cursory glance at best. But that's my opinion. They probably thought it would kick up too much dust if outsiders were bought in to run a chain of local stations. ("This is a local channel for local people! There's nothing for you here!)

Regarding BSkyB kicking up a fuss over channel 8 on their platform. Who cares. OFCOM in my opinion should have flexed their muscles over that. Again weak as water. These stations are going to have a hard enough trouble getting off the ground. If OFCOM is in charge then act like it.


OFCOM is a regulator, rather than 'in charge'. It's not an IBA-type authority which ruled commercial broadcasting with an iron fist.

Why should Sky give up channel 8 for free? They've invested BILLIONS into the platform and they deserve to reap whatever commercial rewards they get.
bilky asko and London Lite gave kudos
RO
robertclark125
Back in the 1970s and 1980s the IBA was the actual broadcaster, as well as a regulator; it simply contracted the work out to private firms, on a geographical basis. OFCOM is not a broadcaster, but a regulator.
MO
Mouseboy33
Jon posted:
Mouseboy33 posted:
True, but you actually think OFCOM seriously looked at Canada's ChannelZero bid? I dont think so. Cursory glance at best. But that's my opinion . They probably thought it would kick up too much dust if outsiders were bought in to run a chain of local stations. ("This is a local channel for local people! There's nothing for you here!)

What evidence are you basing this on?
BA
bilky asko
Mouseboy33 posted:
Jon posted:
Mouseboy33 posted:
True, but you actually think OFCOM seriously looked at Canada's ChannelZero bid? I dont think so. Cursory glance at best. But that's my opinion . They probably thought it would kick up too much dust if outsiders were bought in to run a chain of local stations. ("This is a local channel for local people! There's nothing for you here!)

What evidence are you basing this on?

Sticking "that's my opinion" posthumously onto your uninformed post, and then berating people who disagree with that opinion, doesn't make you seem intelligent - it makes you seem petulant.


Next time you make up some rubbish, expect to be called up on it.
MO
Mouseboy33
LOL. Well actually Im not berating anyone. (the pot calling...) In my original post i stated "IN MY OPINION. Which I highlighted for emphasis and I also used the word "probably". I can give my opinion like anyone else does and is entitled to on this forum. Moving on....

I wonder who will actually apply for the Birmingham License now. I guess that OFCOM should make sure that the potential operator has some initial start-up capital before handing out the license to another group.
Last edited by Mouseboy33 on 14 August 2014 1:36pm
BA
bilky asko
Mouseboy33 posted:
LOL. Well actually Im not berating anyone. (the pot calling...)

So pooh-poohing someone's informed opinion isn't berating them? Going by what you've posted below, you're a massive hypocrite...


Mouseboy33 posted:
In my original post i stated "IN MY OPINION. Which I highlighted for emphasis and I also used the word "probably". I can give my opinion like anyone else does and is entitled to on this forum.


You stated as fact that the bidding wasn't opened up to international players by stating that you think it should be. Jon said that it was never closed to international bidders. You then take the mick out of him:

Mouseboy33 posted:
Jon posted:
Mouseboy33 posted:
I say open the licenses to international operators with a remit for 50-70% percent local based content and let the chips fall where they may.

They were never closed to them.

You actually believe that?



Jon then explained the process, to which you respond with a load of spurious rubbish, to which you finally add that it was actually your opinion and entirely baseless.

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion, and other members are perfectly entitled to point out when you're opinion is worse than conjecture and has no basis in fact whatsoever.
OM
Omnipresent
London Live is to change its target audience to an older demographic according to Roy Greenslade:

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/aug/14/london-live-london-evening-standard
MO
Mouseboy33
[quote="bilky asko" pid="929114"]
Mouseboy33 posted:

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion.

LOL. I sure am, like everyone else.

Anyway.....back to the topic. Well its good LL is going to look at their target market again. Obviously they over-thought the yoof market would be tuning in droves. I wonder if that means they are relaunch their "news" product? That could be interesting.
NL
Ne1L C
News from Sheffield Live:
http://www.sheffieldlive.org/tv-channel-hits-launch-funding-target/
JK
JK08
Also;

Quote:
The countdown has begun for Sheffield’s local television channel as Sheffield Live Television’s launch date has been revealed.

Sheffield Live! Television will begin broadcasting, via Freeview channel 8, Virgin Cable and the internet, on Tuesday 23rd September.

The television channel will broadcast news about Sheffield alongside programmes covering Sheffield music, sport, culture and much more.

It promises unique, high quality content, “Made in Sheffield, Made by you.” A flagship daily news programme will cover Sheffield news in depth. Other programmes will cover Sheffield’s “rich, varied, and diverse” music, events, culture, arts, and sports.

The channel will collaborate with existing community radio station, Sheffield Live!, which has been broadcasting via FM for nearly seven years; and will benefit from a contract to supply some content to the BBC.

The license for the channel was secured in November 2012 after Ofcom – the Government’s media regulator – advertised licenses in Sheffield and 20 locations. Sheffield Local Television Ltd, wholly owned by Sheffield Community Media Ltd, was the winning applicant for the Sheffield local TV service.

Since then, SLTV has appointed a launch team, supported programme development, and worked with the other local television channels and with Ofcom as the national and local infrastructure needed to deliver local television was progressed.

Steve Buckley, chair of SLTV Ltd., said “Sheffield Live Television will reflect the interests of Sheffield people and communities – and provide a platform for local talent and opportunities for local businesses. It will be an open, diverse and inclusive channel, locally owned and run for community benefit. We are thrilled to be able to announce our launch date and look forward to providing Sheffield with the local news and types of programming they’ve asked for from a new local TV channel.”

A preview showreel, showcasing some of the programming in development for the new channel, is available to view

Sheffield Live! TV is locally owned and run for community benefit. People and businesses from Sheffield can still become “community shareholders” through the Sheffield Community Media Ltd Pioneer and Community Share Offer, which is open until 14 August.


http://www.sheffieldlive.org/launch-date-for-sheffields-new-local-television-channel-announced/
LL
London Lite Founding member
ITV News Meridian get a behind the scenes look at Latest TV.

http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/update/2014-08-19/behind-the-scenes-at-regions-newest-tv-station/
MS
Mr-Stabby
Bic Basher posted:


Wow, such a small operation. I've seen universities and even small colleges with bigger and better facilities. Which begs the question as to why they don't create these kind of stations in conjunction with universities and colleges who already have facilities and free labour. They could then survive on a low amount of viewers.

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