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MA
Markymark
lhx1985 posted:
A few one-sentence twitter messages with the odd angry-face emoji is hardly an effective method of scrutinising power.
It's very easy to dismiss tweets as irrelevant - and let's face it, they are. By large, they'll be unseen by most people anyway.

Proper scrutiny comes with considered reporting, transmitted to an audience base of significant size (ie mass media), not reactionary one-liners tweeted to a handful of sycophants.

It's the equivalent of saying you can hold power to account by having a chat down the pub.


Ha, I agree, I wasn't saying tweet responses were a valid form of scrutiny or hold any merit, just that's that the about nearest you get to it !
JA
JAS84
Just found this job advert on indeed.com

Quote:
TV Reporter/ Video Journalist

That's TV - Freeview TV Network

Please note: You must have a journalism qualification to be shortlisted for this role.

Do you want to work with some of the best people in TV? Former That's TV journalists now work with major broadcasters including the BBC, ITV / ITN, Sky and CNN.

That's TV is seeking multi-skilled journalists to set up, shoot, edit and voice compelling TV news packages for its regional daily news programming. There may also be opportunities for exceptional candidates to present on-screen.

This is a rare opportunity to gain significant experience in TV reporting and presenting.

That's TV reporters frequently also contribute news footage to the BBC.

Expect to be busy. That's TV is seeking ambitious journalists who will bin the press releases and go out and find their own challenging news stories and human interest features.

Job Type: Contract

Location:
Hull (Preferred)

Licence:
journalism qualification (Preferred)
Preferred? Says you must have that qualification at the top of the listing. So does that mean some presenters/reporters don't have it?
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Its more likely to be the case that those who apply to That's TV are either straight out of media school, or desperate. I dare say those they really like they can probably feed them through an Apprenticeship to give them a qualification and anybody who knows how to slap videos together in Premier Pro and throw them on YouTube is well ahead of the game already.

Its tragic really when one can see far better presentation and editing skills on various YouTube channels than the Local TV operations. I only hope should anybody who edits for YouTube who goes for one of these doesn't get dragged down to That's level of quality.
CL
Closedown
Watched a bit of Leeds TV, - The top story on the wrongly-named Yorkshire Live at 6pm tonight - anchored by a woman standing on a street in Temple Newsam for no apparent reason - was derived from a West Yorkshire police press release about illegal money lending that hit the Yorkshire Evening Post website on Wednesday afternoon. Fifteen minutes later, self-same woman was outside Leeds Town Hall under oddly sunny skies for 6.15, given that she was, um, 'Live', reading out some different press releases.

They also have some sort of advertorial feature, Local Legends, sponsored by McDonalds. It seems from the two spots I saw that to qualify as a legend, you have to work at McDonalds.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Closedown posted:
Watched a bit of Leeds TV, - The top story on the wrongly-named Yorkshire Live at 6pm tonight - anchored by a woman standing on a street in Temple Newsam for no apparent reason - was derived from a West Yorkshire police press release about illegal money lending that hit the Yorkshire Evening Post website on Wednesday afternoon.


Were you watching on Sky by any chance?
The 'service' on Sky 117 isn't the same as what you get on Freeview channel 8, its effectively a different service that pools together all the various local news services and then rebroadcasts CBS Reality.
CL
Closedown
No, just Freeview Neil!

8 days later

:-(
A former member
That's TV haven't added Scotland to their website yet. Neither have they added Grimsby. I suspect they won't either, given how long they've been on-air.
JA
JAS84
Humber, not Grimsby. As that job ad I posted proves, they're actually operating out of Hull.
PC
p_c_u_k
CrispyPotato posted:
That's TV haven't added Scotland to their website yet. Neither have they added Grimsby. I suspect they won't either, given how long they've been on-air.


I don't know how it's affected everyone else but it seems that you have to retune your TV in Scotland to get That's. Which, given my roof aerial is somewhat patchy at the best of times and the reports I've heard about their stations, doesn't entirely inspire me to give it a go.
LH
lhx1985
It took quite a while for York and Scarborough to be added. Well, they were on the map but said to be 'coming soon' for months after launch.

You're not missing much. Just a bunch of embedded videos of painfully long local news packages with painfully little content.
SP
Spiceweasel
noggin posted:
Precisely. Yet the BBC trialled local TV in the West Midlands - and by all accounts it was a lot higher quality than the That's/Made output - but was not extended because of competition fears (local papers mainly I think)...

It was also incredibly expensive to run... because, BBC.


I'm sure it was cheap compared to the likes of Midlands Today. But on seeing their corner of the Mailbox during a visit at the time, there were seemed to be 'a lot' of people involved, and quite a lot infrastructure, too.

Made used to be okay. But since they changed hands, it's all pretty much gone down the toilet. As a Manchester resident, I think we were spoiled, to some extent, by Channel M.
BR
Brekkie
Spiceweasel posted:
I'm sure it was cheap compared to the likes of Midlands Today. But on seeing their corner of the Mailbox during a visit at the time, there were seemed to be 'a lot' of people involved, and quite a lot infrastructure, too.

The trouble is that is the reality of making television - you need numerous people to make even a fairly bog-standard production.

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