IS
The breakdown slides and announcer wouldn't have been anything to do with Red Bee. The policy had long been (way back when it was all done in house) that playout only accept whole finished programmes, they don't add elements or do stuff to the programme as it goes out. So if you want some fake continuity, then it has to be part of the programme.
Presumably they worlds with the appropriate BBC department (whichever it is these days) to co-ordinate getting the slide and the correct announcer.
Presumably they worlds with the appropriate BBC department (whichever it is these days) to co-ordinate getting the slide and the correct announcer.
IS
I saw that elsewhere earlier along with a group photo of the production team and crew. It really needs a 'how it was made' feature or article.
I'm not sure what scoring music is but I don't remember the being any music... which is the sign of good incidental music I suppose
I'm reliably informed that it was nearly all live, and what's even more remarkable is that even the music was scored live.
I saw that elsewhere earlier along with a group photo of the production team and crew. It really needs a 'how it was made' feature or article.
I'm not sure what scoring music is but I don't remember the being any music... which is the sign of good incidental music I suppose
GE
Yes - analogue circuits, analogue broadcast to the home and terrestrial microwave links from OBs to broadcast centres all have very low delays compared to digital compressed systems and satellites.
I was told recently that Peter Brackley would do off-tube commentary for Football Italia from home, with an ISDN line and his own telly...
thegeek
Founding member
If you give Election 97 a watch, they cut to a Labour club early on, again with hardly any delay.
Yes - analogue circuits, analogue broadcast to the home and terrestrial microwave links from OBs to broadcast centres all have very low delays compared to digital compressed systems and satellites.
I was told recently that Peter Brackley would do off-tube commentary for Football Italia from home, with an ISDN line and his own telly...
HC
Really?
I thought he was in a booth at Channel 4.
Wonder if the match pictures were fed to him via a circuit set up by Chrysalis Sport?
Because if he was commentating by watching the pictures coming via the Channel 4 tx, and his local transmitter failed, it would sound odd that he couldn't see the pictures from the ground, when the rest of the country could.
I thought he was in a booth at Channel 4.
Wonder if the match pictures were fed to him via a circuit set up by Chrysalis Sport?
Because if he was commentating by watching the pictures coming via the Channel 4 tx, and his local transmitter failed, it would sound odd that he couldn't see the pictures from the ground, when the rest of the country could.
SP
Nice touch that Beccy Wright was credited as part of the cast at the end of the show.
I assume the BBC Nations were warned to expect the "sound fault" and not to do their own breakdown sequence?
The breakdown slides and announcer wouldn't have been anything to do with Red Bee. The policy had long been (way back when it was all done in house) that playout only accept whole finished programmes, they don't add elements or do stuff to the programme as it goes out. So if you want some fake continuity, then it has to be part of the programme.
Presumably they worlds with the appropriate BBC department (whichever it is these days) to co-ordinate getting the slide and the correct announcer.
Presumably they worlds with the appropriate BBC department (whichever it is these days) to co-ordinate getting the slide and the correct announcer.
Nice touch that Beccy Wright was credited as part of the cast at the end of the show.
I assume the BBC Nations were warned to expect the "sound fault" and not to do their own breakdown sequence?
NG
Nice touch that Beccy Wright was credited as part of the cast at the end of the show.
I assume the BBC Nations were warned to expect the "sound fault" and not to do their own breakdown sequence?
I believe there were warnings in the line bookings from Maidstone Studios too.
noggin
Founding member
The breakdown slides and announcer wouldn't have been anything to do with Red Bee. The policy had long been (way back when it was all done in house) that playout only accept whole finished programmes, they don't add elements or do stuff to the programme as it goes out. So if you want some fake continuity, then it has to be part of the programme.
Presumably they worlds with the appropriate BBC department (whichever it is these days) to co-ordinate getting the slide and the correct announcer.
Presumably they worlds with the appropriate BBC department (whichever it is these days) to co-ordinate getting the slide and the correct announcer.
Nice touch that Beccy Wright was credited as part of the cast at the end of the show.
I assume the BBC Nations were warned to expect the "sound fault" and not to do their own breakdown sequence?
I believe there were warnings in the line bookings from Maidstone Studios too.
IS
Yes, periods of silence, black and other oddities are listed in the paperwork that accompanies the programme
Not just important for the nations to know of course, everyone involved in getting it to air should be warned. For one thing periods of silence set off alarms in some control rooms and no-one normally wants to see colour bars etc go to air.
Not that it usually happens, many a time I've been in a control room and caught out by some artistic treatment that looks like a fault. Last night's was quite extreme so people were warned
Not just important for the nations to know of course, everyone involved in getting it to air should be warned. For one thing periods of silence set off alarms in some control rooms and no-one normally wants to see colour bars etc go to air.
Not that it usually happens, many a time I've been in a control room and caught out by some artistic treatment that looks like a fault. Last night's was quite extreme so people were warned
NG
Yes. Live programmes are normally expected to warn Playout if their show contains periods of black, colour bars, simulated spooling, fake interference effects, un-expected black and white sequences, periods of silence or tone etc., during line-up if not before.
noggin
Founding member
Yes, periods of silence, black and other oddities are listed in the paperwork that accompanies the programme
Not just important for the nations to know of course, everyone involved in getting it to air should be warned. For one thing periods of silence set off alarms in some control rooms and no-one normally wants to see colour bars etc go to air.
Not that it usually happens, many a time I've been in a control room and caught out by some artistic treatment that looks like a fault
Not just important for the nations to know of course, everyone involved in getting it to air should be warned. For one thing periods of silence set off alarms in some control rooms and no-one normally wants to see colour bars etc go to air.
Not that it usually happens, many a time I've been in a control room and caught out by some artistic treatment that looks like a fault
Yes. Live programmes are normally expected to warn Playout if their show contains periods of black, colour bars, simulated spooling, fake interference effects, un-expected black and white sequences, periods of silence or tone etc., during line-up if not before.