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(September 2003)

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AN
Andrew Founding member
sparkiestu posted:
It should get better, we are only a few days into the new autumn season after all! Smile

Stu


Well looking at this week, BBC1 are offering during Prime Time which is 7pm to 10.30pm:

NEW: EastEnders, Holby City, Ground Force America, Watchdog, Garden SOS, Bargain Hunt, Canterbury Tales, My Hero and Eye's Down

Repeats: Question of Sport, Absolutely Fabulous, Out Take TV, Airport, Open All Hours and Only Fools and Horses

ITV1 have got:

NEW: Emmerdale, Coronation Street, Tonight with Trevor McDonald, Suspicion, Infested, Who wants to be a Millionaire, The Bill, Sweet Medicine, Airline, Rosemary and Thyme and Des O'Connor with Jo Brand

Repeats: None
KA
Katherine Founding member
LIKES: 'The Machine' and Millionaire.

DISLIKES: Everything else, ESPECIALLY rat-fink Mr No-Charisma AKA Jim Rosenthal.
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A former member
Hymagumba posted:
A certain issue that if mentioned would annoy James Martin.
Thank you - I've been waiting for you to bring that up in this thread. So as Angel herself may have said "Errr, reality check?!"

If it was the BBC Hymagumba, then maybe they could have let Crossroads drag on for a little bit more, as if you get the embarrasingly poor viewing figures that Crossroads had there, you're not going to lose out on advertising revenue.

The programme went from being ITV1's highest-rating daytime programme back in 2001and 2002 to averaging around a mere 1 Million at the end of it's new-year revamp, a revamp that backfired so spectacularly that it was hardly SIX WEEKS before ITV1 already saw it was simply not viable to continue producing a show that was not only costing £48,000 an episode to make, a princely sum that's getting on for £250,000 a week, but disastrously unpopular with the viewers. Just to put it into perspective, I could buy a mid-to-high-end Spanish penthouse apartment on the Costa Del Sol for the £250,00 that Carlton were spending every week.

The brief to Yvon Grace, the woman in charge with overseeing said re-vamp was simple: she could do whatever she wanted - and boy did she do what she wanted - but nonetheless, she had to add another 1 Million viewers onto what MK2 was getting in August 2002. The programme lost half a million viewers in the first episode alone.

Now you tell me exactly why cancelling Crossroads was not 100% justified, because the facts are quite frankly damning.

And either way - if Crossroads really was ITV1's best offering on the entire channel, Hymagumba, then really it must be an even worse station that most of the forumers here are giving it credit for.
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A former member
oh for christ's sake, i thought you'd left, you boring imbecile?
DA
DAS Founding member
The Big Show posted:
Hymagumba posted:
A certain issue that if mentioned would annoy James Martin.
Thank you - I've been waiting for you to bring that up in this thread. So as Angel herself may have said "Errr, reality check?!"

If it was the BBC Hymagumba, then maybe they could have let Crossroads drag on for a little bit more, as if you get the embarrasingly poor viewing figures that Crossroads had there, you're not going to lose out on advertising revenue.

The programme went from being ITV1's highest-rating daytime programme back in 2001and 2002 to averaging around a mere 1 Million at the end of it's new-year revamp, a revamp that backfired so spectacularly that it was hardly SIX WEEKS before ITV1 already saw it was simply not viable to continue producing a show that was not only costing £48,000 an episode to make, a princely sum that's getting on for £250,000 a week, but disastrously unpopular with the viewers. Just to put it into perspective, I could buy a mid-to-high-end Spanish penthouse apartment on the Costa Del Sol for the £250,00 that Carlton were spending every week.

The brief to Yvon Grace, the woman in charge with overseeing said re-vamp was simple: she could do whatever she wanted - and boy did she do what she wanted - but nonetheless, she had to add another 1 Million viewers onto what MK2 was getting in August 2002. The programme lost half a million viewers in the first episode alone.

Now you tell me exactly why cancelling Crossroads was not 100% justified, because the facts are quite frankly damning.

And either way - if Crossroads really was ITV1's best offering on the entire channel, Hymagumba, then really it must be an even worse station that most of the forumers here are giving it credit for.


6 paragraphs of nothing. Nobody cares about Crossroads. Everyone else has a life. Don't be a tosser, find a girlfriend.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
The Big Show posted:
I could buy a mid-to-high-end Spanish penthouse apartment on the Costa Del Sol for the £250,00 that Carlton were spending every week.


So bugger off to the Costa Del Sol then.

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The brief to Yvon Grace, the woman in charge with overseeing said re-vamp was simple: she could do whatever she wanted - and boy did she do what she wanted - but nonetheless, she had to add another 1 Million viewers onto what MK2 was getting in August 2002. The programme lost half a million viewers in the first episode alone.


http://www.planetcrossroads.co.uk/forum/html/emoticons/sleepgo.gif

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Now you tell me exactly why cancelling Crossroads was not 100% justified, because the facts are quite frankly damning.


You tell us why you told us that you was going to bugger off and why you're still here under a new name? http://www.planetcrossroads.co.uk/forum/html/emoticons/gaga.gif

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And either way - if Crossroads really was ITV1's best offering on the entire channel, Hymagumba, then really it must be an even worse station that most of the forumers here are giving it credit for.


http://www.planetcrossroads.co.uk/forum/html/emoticons/sleepgo.gif
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A former member
If there's anyone here being pointless it's you Neil. At least try and challenge my arguments rather than use emoticons that look like the emoticon person has been pooed on... Rolling Eyes
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A former member
The Big Show posted:
If there's anyone here being pointless it's you Neil.

no no, james, it's definitely you. can't you stay away from here?
SP
sparkiestu
Square Eyes posted:
sparkiestu posted:
Where else is it going to go then? Always seems to be enough space in the schedule to be honest!

Stu

You have to question why in this day and age, with VCR's and repeats on BBC3, why BBC One have to have a 2 hour repeat of Eastenders at all every Sunday afternoon.


Perhaps, but what else is going to go on?

Stu
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A former member
No I won't. Hymagumba argued that ITV was bad because they cancelled Crossroads. He cannot see why Crossroads was cancelled so I am telling him why Crossroads was cancelled. Given that he looks at Neil Jones' site quite a lot and helps out with compliancy issues over there, Neil's written it all down himself, I shouldn't have to explain.

EDIT: Quick reminder that I didn't spout out my "anti-Crossroads" babble and "Crossroads is crap full stop" spiel again. I've seen the argument mostly from ITV's point of view and backed my arguments up with facts and figures, most which can be credited to Planet Crossroads, namely Neil's "biography" of the show and the news articles hosted there.

If anyone else had written that they'd have been praised for being a breath of fresh air. Anyone here actually tried reading the post from start to finish? Proably not. You see "Oh, it's the Big Show - JM's new name. Fcuk that then." My new name, Neil is because when I thought better of my rant the other Saturday night I found my username deleted. I was feeling low, depressed, lonely, fed-up, pathetic and I felt like my life was going nowhere. Now that was most certainly not over the forum, believe me, that was over my own life. The way I was treated on TV Forum just tipped it for me. I made a mistake, I'm sorry. I'm not asking for forgiveness but don't dismiss something I write out of hand when anyone else writing it would have it taken seriously.

Neil Jones posted:
So bugger off to the Costa Del Sol then
I do. Every summer and either at Easter, October or December. My folks might have £250,000 to spend on one Neil but unfortunately I won't for a while - and hopefully won't for quite some time to come.
SP
sparkiestu
Andrew posted:
sparkiestu posted:
It should get better, we are only a few days into the new autumn season after all! Smile

Stu


Well looking at this week, BBC1 are offering during Prime Time which is 7pm to 10.30pm:

NEW: EastEnders, Holby City, Ground Force America, Watchdog, Garden SOS, Bargain Hunt, Canterbury Tales, My Hero and Eye's Down

Repeats: Question of Sport, Absolutely Fabulous, Out Take TV, Airport, Open All Hours and Only Fools and Horses

ITV1 have got:

NEW: Emmerdale, Coronation Street, Tonight with Trevor McDonald, Suspicion, Infested, Who wants to be a Millionaire, The Bill, Sweet Medicine, Airline, Rosemary and Thyme and Des O'Connor with Jo Brand

Repeats: None


To be honest they are both just as bad as each other...

BBC One has 6 repeated shows this week, but ITV fills up 7hrs alone with soaps (Corrie, Emmerdale, The Bill) - then the next week the Beeb only have 3 repeated shows (Only Fools, Airport and Pyramid) with

Eastenders, Inside Out, Changing Rooms, Waking the Dead, Watchdog, Holby City, A Life of Grime, They Think It's All Over, Weakest Link, Lottery, 50 Things to do Before You Die, Bargain Hunt, Garden SOS, Canterbury Tales, TOTP, Eyes Down and My Hero being new

but ITV play the News at When? game twice... and only offers

Emmerdale, Corrie, Carla, Tonight With..., Posh and Becks Reign in Spain, The Bill, Sweet Medicine, Airline and Rosemary & Thyme as new!

See, we could sit here for hours picking holes out of each others scheduling but it wouldn't get anyone anywhere.
AN
Andrew Founding member
sparkiestu posted:
To be honest they are both just as bad as each other...

See, we could sit here for hours picking holes out of each others scheduling but it wouldn't get anyone anywhere.


And there concludes this discussion! Wink

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