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Late late show in London

(June 2018)

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A former member
Well I'm surprised no one is talking about James Corden being back in London this week for the Late late show from London. I take it he is also filming a new series of a league of their own? He been popping up alot on sky and even Nick Grimshaw show.

Past threads for ref:
* https://tvforum.uk/tvhome/cbs-late-night-changes-part-2-42261/page-4#post-1056177
* https://tvforum.uk/tvhome/itv-late-night-chat-42025/

The thing that stuck me was, wow the presentation, the set for a one week stint, is outstanding, when you compare it to the crap ITV tried to pretend to give to us last year. Its like ITV just never tried, here is a desk and cramp place with dull colours. Its like ITV spent 50p on the budget. Yet somehow CBS has spent £2.50 Razz

The Guest seem alot better, but that shouldn't have mattered, but at least you get a bit more time. again how did anyone expect to enjoy a chat with someone for mins? Also the segment seem a lot better even if there come off the back of postcard. Its just feels like ITV weren't trying and new ah bugger it why bother.

I still think there is room for something like this, Guest, chat etc but it need to be after the news and not evey day.
BR
Brekkie
I suspect he has a greater budget per show than the Nightly Show had for the entire series.

Think it's being filmed at the Westminster Methodist Hall again which has proven to be a great location for such shows.
HC
Hatton Cross
Yes. The Late Late Show this week.
Up at Elstree for A League Of Their Own next week.
Interested they are taping TLLS at 1pm.

Given we are 5 hours ahead of EST, I'd have thought they could have recorded it at 5pm UK time, and still have time to top and tail and shove it westbound via the cables under the Atlantic ready for Tx at 12.35 East Coast US time.
PC
p_c_u_k
UK television has been trying to duplicate the success of late night shows in America without joy for decades. For a nightly show to work in the UK it would have to be very different because:
a) The budget isn't there - we don't have the scale. Our population is 65 million, the US population is 325 million. This also affects
b) Who's willing to go on the show - because when you've got a population that size, even a show on at silly o'clock will get a decent viewership. And then there's
c) The fact a lot of celebrity is still centered in Hollywood and based in LA. They're only coming round to the UK when they've got a film to plug, and even then only for the odd European premiere. Hollywood stars are the real A-listers. The UK's celebrity options are music, sport and TV presenters, and an ever-decreasing number of very big name presenters at that. We can pull together a very good Graham Norton show, a nightly show is beyond us for guests. This is before you consider
d) The different sense of humour/humor. Because if you've ever watched a full episode of The Late Late Show, as opposed to the funny YouTube clips, you'll know nothing quite underlines the difference in what we find funny and what America finds funny. A UK show would have to come from a very different place.
JK
JKDerry
Yes. The Late Late Show this week.
Up at Elstree for A League Of Their Own next week.
Interested they are taping TLLS at 1pm.

Given we are 5 hours ahead of EST, I'd have thought they could have recorded it at 5pm UK time, and still have time to top and tail and shove it westbound via the cables under the Atlantic ready for Tx at 12.35 East Coast US time.

Taping it at 1.00pm means the show will end around 2.30pm. The show then has to be edited and ready for transmission over the atlantic to CBS Broadcast Center in New York probably around 4.00pm BST. In the US, James usually tapes his show around 3.30pm/4pm Los Angeles time, that is around 7pm New York time.

CBS have a very big budget for these shows. Even when Craig Ferguson used to joke when he hosted the show that the budget was very small, it is huge compared to how much ITV would be willing to spend.
JK
JKDerry
UK television has been trying to duplicate the success of late night shows in America without joy for decades. For a nightly show to work in the UK it would have to be very different because:
a) The budget isn't there - we don't have the scale. Our population is 65 million, the US population is 325 million. This also affects
b) Who's willing to go on the show - because when you've got a population that size, even a show on at silly o'clock will get a decent viewership. And then there's
c) The fact a lot of celebrity is still centered in Hollywood and based in LA. They're only coming round to the UK when they've got a film to plug, and even then only for the odd European premiere. Hollywood stars are the real A-listers. The UK's celebrity options are music, sport and TV presenters, and an ever-decreasing number of very big name presenters at that. We can pull together a very good Graham Norton show, a nightly show is beyond us for guests. This is before you consider
d) The different sense of humour/humor. Because if you've ever watched a full episode of The Late Late Show, as opposed to the funny YouTube clips, you'll know nothing quite underlines the difference in what we find funny and what America finds funny. A UK show would have to come from a very different place.

The typical American talk show also has a rigid format which most of them stick to. A set piece which was started mainly by Johnny Carson, later Jay Leno and David Letterman.

The format usually follows - 1) Monologue from the host about the day's stories and events. 2) A big comedy routine, usually a signature piece for the host. 3) First guest interview which usually lasts no longer than ten minutes. 4) Possibly another comedy skit followed by the second guest interview of around 8 minutes. 5) To conclude a musical guest or a guest stand up.

Also a typical one hour talk show in the US is also loaded with commercial breaks. Usually six in total. Making the run time only 44 minutes. With at least 20 minutes of that used for comedy and the monologue, there is not much talk or chat with guests.

I remember watching Craig Ferguson interviewing Kenneth Branagh and he did a 7 minute interview, he then threw to the commercial break, and as soon as he said welcome back, he said to Kenneth "well that is about it, we are out of time" and spent 2 minutes doing a silly game with him and threw to another commercial break.

US talk shows are very different, and have been part and parcel of the American way of life since at least 1954. Here, we can only tolerate a weekly talk show. Graham Norton one night a week is fine for nearly 3 million viewers. Five nights a week, I think would be overload.
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A former member
Most of those USA show don't do Friday editions anymore.. With many now showing repeats.
JO
Jonwo
Most of those USA show don't do Friday editions anymore.. With many now showing repeats.


Colbert and Fallon are the only ones that do five nights a week.
JK
JKDerry
Most of those USA show don't do Friday editions anymore.. With many now showing repeats.


Colbert and Fallon are the only ones that do five nights a week.

I know Stephen Colbert tapes his Friday editions on a Thursday, Fallon probably does the same to give them a long weekend off
JO
Jonwo

I know Stephen Colbert tapes his Friday editions on a Thursday, Fallon probably does the same to give them a long weekend off


Many shows like Live with Kelly and Ryan do that and so the Friday editions tends not to be topical.
DA
davidhorman
Here, we can only tolerate a weekly talk show. Graham Norton one night a week is fine for nearly 3 million viewers. Five nights a week, I think would be overload.


We did manage to tolerate three times a week, all year, for several years...
PC
p_c_u_k
Fair point, though that was a very different era. Only three channels and a prime-time slot meant the US agents would have been chomping at the bit to get their guests on - you'd have a huge chunk of the UK watching your act plugging whatever they had to plug. Any equivalent show nowadays would have a far smaller audience by default.

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