Jonathan Ross returns...

Well, the latter statement was published in Private Eye - and was reproduced on Metropol (you know - that site you are too mature for but read with alarming regularity).

As for "floundering" - well, it wasn't I who said they would believe none of what Carol's agent said without her personal verification - that was you.

You said you would like to hear her version of the events. As such, I thought you would have made an effort to read it.

Or is it more likely that it is YOU who cannot back up your own argument, Sir?

My feelings on the whole affair remains unchanged and are there in this thread for all to read.

I abhor the notion that private conversations in a green room were leaked/sold to the press; but as the information is now in the public domain I cannot in good conscience defend Ms Thatcher's words, nor her refusal to offer an unconditional apology.

So now we're clear on my viewpoint, would you care to share yours?

As I recall you asked me this morning if I had read Carol Thatcher's exclusive interview in the Daily Mail.
I asked you to produce it and you couldn't.
Everything else, my dear chum, is just flim-flam.
Your attempts at bluster are both an amusement and an embarrassment.

My head doesn't button up the back you know.

This is merely another example of you avoiding answering the question. That may work on lesser individuals, but not I.

What's the matter Showbiz - are you getting squeamish now you have to back up Carol's use of the word "golliwog"?

You chose to re-open the debate about Carol Thatcher not I.
Unless and until you can re-produce the Daily Mail exclusive interview which you mentioned in your post I'm not sure what the point is in carrying on with the discussion.
Of course such an exclusive interview would merit a renewed debate but as we - and everyone reading this - know there hasn't been one.
So let's maintain our principles, old chap, and not let matters deteriorate into personal insults which could result in a banning.

To be honest I'd rather watch Adrian Chiles on TV than Carol Thatcher, I find her more loathsome that Adrian Chiles TBH. I actually think Chiles is great on MOTD2 & wish the BBC would give him the full gig instead of smug g*t Lineker

True enough. I would have done it sooner, but you were "unavailable", as it were.



A fair point. I shall seek a copy of the article, in that case.



Oh but there has. Carol secured a large payout for the interview, as mentioned some pages back.



I haven't yet found myself in that position, but I'll certainly take that point on board.

Any joy with that article yet ?
I've Googled but can't find any trace of it. Perhaps the Daily Mail could supply you with a back copy although I'd be surprised such as scoop wasn't on their website.

Well I took your advice, and looked for a back copy using the contact details on this page.

As you'll discover, if you ring it, the number doesn't seem to work.

So I called the newsdesk, who informed me that they didn't secure a large interview, but instead managed to gain "some comments". She couldn't tell me what they were or on what day they were published.

So I tried - in the interests of debate, you understand - but have hit a brick wall.

So - an easy-out for you then - but to be honest, I wasn't exactly expecting you to be any less obfuscating on the matter than you have been already.

I think "golliwog" is offensive, just as I find, "window licker" offensive.

You nailed your colours to the mast with one of those phrases. I guess I'll just have to make an assumption on the other - given your refusal to condemn her.

Let's just be quite clear on this one old chum.
YOU chose to resurrect an old discussion by asking if I'd read the exclusive interview she gave to the Daily Mail.
I asked you to provide the article and you couldn't.
I gave you an opportunity to correct your facts yesterday but you again insisted there had been an exclusive article for which Carol Thatcher received a large sum of money.
You were wrong and I called your bluff.
At least have the common courtesy if not a shred of decency to admit it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/feb/06/carol-thatcher-multiple-golliwog-remarks



Well perhaps even Media Guardian's "sources" can't be trusted, or perhaps she though better of it.

No "bluff" on my part, dear. I just comment on what I read - which includes your somewhat chauvinistic diatribes.

Of course, if you'd rather make comments without anyone replying, you could always scribble things down in a jotter, and keep it under your pillow.

Ah - so we finally managed to drag a sort of admission from you that you got it wrong ( although your assertion that you " hit a brick wall " in your attempts to find the article did raise a good laugh here in Showbizguru Towers )
But even then you were churlish about it - a sure sign of someone overcome with hubris and arrogance.
Perhaps that might teach you in future to be a little more sure of your facts before attempting to be clever.
Anyway, you chose to re-open the topic but as nothing new has been added to the debate there seems little point in carrying on with it.
Pip pip !

Well I'm only human.

The only thing we never did manage to find out was why you cried "foul" at her being sacked for uttering racial insults.

And I suppose we never shall.

Poop poop.