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James Bond subtitling file

(July 2003)

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A former member
I'm not saying it's the case either way but...

Consider the amount of data needed to send the subititles as text versus the amount of data needed to send them as bitmap images. I'd go for the former.

However... http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:mk4DaCQOAcUJ:lib.hut.fi/Diss/2002/isbn9512261723/article6.pdf+digital+television+subtitles&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 has more information!
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The Nurse
Yes I suppose you're right, however it would take a lot less than another channel... they should've built it into the system from the ground up. That way you wouldn't irritate hard-of-hearing persons by showing signed programmes overnight and you wouldn't irritate the people to whom they mean nothing; ie hungover people watching the Hollyoaks omnibus and insomniacs!
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A former member
Yes, that is how they are sent one advantage is that fonts and character sets can be specified by the broadcasters.

Digital subtitles are the same subtitles that appear on analogue, normally the subs are inserted into the video stream straight and then arebroadcast as analogue subtitles and converted into digital format for the digital networks.

BTW Subtitles for recorded programmes rarely come from the tape itself. They are stored on disc and then transferred into the subtitle inserter for the broadcast.
There are several reasons for this: firstly you can't edit the tape afterwards without buggering up the subtitle data, secondly you have to put the subtitles on the tape in real time which means making a whole new copy of the programme, and the subtitles can be delivered to playout much later than the tape.
PE
Pete Founding member
[quote="Larry Scutta"]
chrisb posted:
The Nurse posted:

The website mentioned above agrees that DVB subtitles are images and the same is displayed for each set-top box.

I presume therefore that a digital thing will take the standard analogue subtitle data directly from the tape, put the data into a series of images, and then broadcast those on the digital platform? I doubt they're all typed out...


Yes, that is how they are sent one advantage is that fonts and character sets can be specified by the broadcasters.

Digital subtitles are the same subtitles that appear on analogue, normally the subs are inserted into the video stream straight and then arebroadcast as analogue subtitles and converted into digital format for the digital networks.

BTW Subtitles for recorded programmes rarely come from the tape itself. They are stored on disc and then transferred into the subtitle inserter for the broadcast.
There are several reasons for this: firstly you can't edit the tape afterwards without buggering up the subtitle data, secondly you have to put the subtitles on the tape in real time which means making a whole new copy of the programme, and the subtitles can be delivered to playout much later than the tape.


gah - I hate how they have their own fonts. The BBC's are nice but ITV's have washed out colours, C4's are too large and five's never work properly.
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nidave
Does anyone know what the legal requirement for subtitles on Digital channels - NTL only seem to show them on the main 5 channels - which annoys me. its hard to lip read the simpsons Smile.
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marksi
The Simpsons on Sky One is subtitled. I'm surprised NTL can get away with not carrying these. Mind you it is NTL we're talking about.

If subtitles are not carried on all BBC services via NTL it would be worth complaining to the BBC who will certainly take up the issue with NTL.

(Dave - why are you using subtitles anyway?! I though it was supposed to make you go blind, not deaf Laughing )
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nidave
marksi posted:
The Simpsons on Sky One is subtitled. I'm surprised NTL can get away with not carrying these. Mind you it is NTL we're talking about.

If subtitles are not carried on all BBC services via NTL it would be worth complaining to the BBC who will certainly take up the issue with NTL.

(Dave - why are you using subtitles anyway?! I though it was supposed to make you go blind, not deaf Laughing )

lol - my best friend has just started going out with a deff person. he asked me the question recently - have to get back to him with an answer - alough i forgot all about it. DOH!

He is also teaching us all to sign (his bf, me and my bf) - got all the swear words down to a fine art now LOL.

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