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Larry the Loafer5,764 posts since 2 Jul 2005
Granada North West Today
If the BBC was happy to buy, no doubt Granada were more than happy to provide the series.

The Royle Family comes to mind in the 90s also. Complete with prominent blue stripe G-arrow logo at the end of the credits.


We were always told in, ahem, A-Level Media Studies that it was a practice that came from Granada et al making programmes that don't fit in their hometown. Though it's easy to say that The Royle Family wouldn't fit in on ITV nowadays, in the late 90s, I can't say it would've seemed too out of place. They certainly seemed more open to comedy ideas at the time and probably would've given it a bit more breathing room than your typical sitcom would get today. Not that we're expecting to see any new sitcoms on ITV any time soon...
VMPhil10,249 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today
If the BBC was happy to buy, no doubt Granada were more than happy to provide the series.

The Royle Family comes to mind in the 90s also. Complete with prominent blue stripe G-arrow logo at the end of the credits.


We were always told in, ahem, A-Level Media Studies that it was a practice that came from Granada et al making programmes that don't fit in their hometown. Though it's easy to say that The Royle Family wouldn't fit in on ITV nowadays, in the late 90s, I can't say it would've seemed too out of place. They certainly seemed more open to comedy ideas at the time and probably would've given it a bit more breathing room than your typical sitcom would get today. Not that we're expecting to see any new sitcoms on ITV any time soon...

Given that the idea behind The Royle Family (at least, originally) was that it was in real time over thirty minutes, I'm not sure it really would have worked on ITV.
JKDerry2,458 posts since 15 Oct 2016
UTV Newsline

But Channel 4 originally started off as a subsidiary of the IBA, (until it was made a seperate PLC from 1993),

Channel 4 is a public corporation, the 'Channel 4 Television Corporation', it is not and never has been a PLC

Channel 4 Television Corporation started in 1993, replacing The Channel 4 Television Company Limited, a subsidiary wholly owned by the IBA. Just thought I give a little clarification on dates.
Neil Jones6,209 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
If the BBC was happy to buy, no doubt Granada were more than happy to provide the series.

The Royle Family comes to mind in the 90s also. Complete with prominent blue stripe G-arrow logo at the end of the credits.


We were always told in, ahem, A-Level Media Studies that it was a practice that came from Granada et al making programmes that don't fit in their hometown. Though it's easy to say that The Royle Family wouldn't fit in on ITV nowadays, in the late 90s, I can't say it would've seemed too out of place. They certainly seemed more open to comedy ideas at the time and probably would've given it a bit more breathing room than your typical sitcom would get today. Not that we're expecting to see any new sitcoms on ITV any time soon...

Given that the idea behind The Royle Family (at least, originally) was that it was in real time over thirty minutes, I'm not sure it really would have worked on ITV.


24 worked on commercial TV, though the impact of it being in real time was lost when it appeared over here on the BBC.
Brekkie34,008 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
If the BBC was happy to buy, no doubt Granada were more than happy to provide the series.

The Royle Family comes to mind in the 90s also. Complete with prominent blue stripe G-arrow logo at the end of the credits.


We were always told in, ahem, A-Level Media Studies that it was a practice that came from Granada et al making programmes that don't fit in their hometown. Though it's easy to say that The Royle Family wouldn't fit in on ITV nowadays, in the late 90s, I can't say it would've seemed too out of place. They certainly seemed more open to comedy ideas at the time and probably would've given it a bit more breathing room than your typical sitcom would get today. Not that we're expecting to see any new sitcoms on ITV any time soon...

Given that the idea behind The Royle Family (at least, originally) was that it was in real time over thirty minutes, I'm not sure it really would have worked on ITV.

Granada especially seem to realise some things work better ad free on the BBC, although had it aired in "real time" on ITV I'm sure the 4 minute break could be worked in easy enough, especially as the show was built around watching TV and putting the kettle on.
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VMPhil10,249 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

We were always told in, ahem, A-Level Media Studies that it was a practice that came from Granada et al making programmes that don't fit in their hometown. Though it's easy to say that The Royle Family wouldn't fit in on ITV nowadays, in the late 90s, I can't say it would've seemed too out of place. They certainly seemed more open to comedy ideas at the time and probably would've given it a bit more breathing room than your typical sitcom would get today. Not that we're expecting to see any new sitcoms on ITV any time soon...

Given that the idea behind The Royle Family (at least, originally) was that it was in real time over thirty minutes, I'm not sure it really would have worked on ITV.


24 worked on commercial TV, though the impact of it being in real time was lost when it appeared over here on the BBC.

I don’t think 24 would have had long periods of silence with Jack Bauer sitting down doing nothing and watching TV though? That was one of the unique things about The Royle Family.


I can certainly see how you could put an ad break into it, I just don’t think it would work nearly as well. With audience sitcoms you can end part one on a great punchline or cliffhanger, not so much with The Royle Family.
Spencer (previously Spencer For Hire) 6,112 posts since 13 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)

We were always told in, ahem, A-Level Media Studies that it was a practice that came from Granada et al making programmes that don't fit in their hometown. Though it's easy to say that The Royle Family wouldn't fit in on ITV nowadays, in the late 90s, I can't say it would've seemed too out of place. They certainly seemed more open to comedy ideas at the time and probably would've given it a bit more breathing room than your typical sitcom would get today. Not that we're expecting to see any new sitcoms on ITV any time soon...

Given that the idea behind The Royle Family (at least, originally) was that it was in real time over thirty minutes, I'm not sure it really would have worked on ITV.

Granada especially seem to realise some things work better ad free on the BBC, although had it aired in "real time" on ITV I'm sure the 4 minute break could be worked in easy enough, especially as the show was built around watching TV and putting the kettle on.


Was it a case of Granada realising that some things work better on the BBC, or was it that these were programmes that the ITV Network Centre didn't want, and so Granada took them to the Beeb instead?
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