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ITV's Overnight News Commitment

(April 2006)

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LO
LONDON
I think the overnight bulletins have to be a certain number of minutes, so nights when there is only one bulletin, it will be a minute or so longer. The maximum number of overnight summary's i can remember is 3, when there used to be a bulletin at something like 12.55am, 2.30am and 4.00am, with the morning news being on at 5.30am.
JO
Jonathan
It is pretty strange how bulletins throughout the day are every six hours or so, with no summaries throughout the day, yet the six and a half hour period between the 10.30 and the Morning News has sometimes up to three bulletins, with such a small audience, I assume. It would be better, as suggested, if they could revive their older format where there was a summary now and again, especially after the demise of the news channel. If I want to find out what's going on between the evening news and the 10.30, there's nothing on ITV to tell me, so I'll just go to News 24.
LO
LONDON
Jonathan posted:
It is pretty strange how bulletins throughout the day are every six hours or so, with no summaries throughout the day, yet the six and a half hour period between the 10.30 and the Morning News has sometimes up to three bulletins, with such a small audience, I assume. It would be better, as suggested, if they could revive their older format where there was a summary now and again, especially after the demise of the news channel. If I want to find out what's going on between the evening news and the 10.30, there's nothing on ITV to tell me, so I'll just go to News 24.


Probably because ratings don't matter really that much at night, due to the small audiences, plus the night workers will want to be kept updated with the news. During the day, most have lunchbreaks, so can watch the Lunchtime news, during the night it is different.
WE
Westy2
This might be a soft question but why was the Morning News introduced in the first place all those years ago?

On the odd occasion I had to go to work at the weekend, it was an hour long & also had a world news bulletin in there too!
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Unless my eyes deceive me this is a topic about news. And here was me thinking there was a whole forum dedicated to the stuff.
YO
yogibarney
Westy2 posted:
This might be a soft question but why was the Morning News introduced in the first place all those years ago?

On the odd occasion I had to go to work at the weekend, it was an hour long & also had a world news bulletin in there too!


From what I have read on the internet and in books when ITV went to the then IBA/ITC to extend its operating hours they did with the inclusion that have an early morning news broadcast and occasional news summaries.

Because of that we have what we have today an hour and half's worth of news from 0530-0700 with an hour with Penny & John on GMTV.
Why ITN just couldn't do an hour of news at 6 instead of GMTV is beyond me!
On TV Ark in the ITV News section there is a promo advertising that ITN is on through the night, I don't know the link tho to watch it
DV
dvboy
The overnight bulletins are pre-recorded, aren't they?
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tvmercia Founding member
dvboy posted:
The overnight bulletins are pre-recorded, aren't they?


i thought pre-recording news bulletins was considered a cardinal sin (i know most news programmes pre-record some sequences) - hence why central news east got a slap on the bum for pre-recording an entire late news bulletin recently?
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A former member
Don't think there's any particular problem with it tvmercia -- for years Tyne Tees pre-recorded the afternoon bulletins that went out from Bilsdale (this was pre-Network North). The newsreader would pre-record the Bilsdale bulletin half an hour before broadcast then put the North one out live. If there was a major story in the meantime they'd put the North one out region-wide. TTTV did not have the technical capacity to broadcast output from Middlesbrough live without pushing it through the Newcastle news gallery first (so could not put it out live as an opt).

And didn't ITVNC put out pre-recorded news all night last year?
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tvmercia Founding member
jason posted:
Don't think there's any particular problem with it tvmercia -- for years Tyne Tees pre-recorded the afternoon bulletins that went out from Bilsdale (this was pre-Network North). The newsreader would pre-record the Bilsdale bulletin half an hour before broadcast then put the North one out live. If there was a major story in the meantime they'd put the North one out region-wide. TTTV did not have the technical capacity to broadcast output from Middlesbrough live without pushing it through the Newcastle news gallery first (so could not put it out live as an opt).

And didn't ITVNC put out pre-recorded news all night last year?


i would imagine licence requirements have changed since then

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,1450612,00.html posted:
However, the Central licence, which is policed by Ofcom, states that regional news programmes should be "presented live" and, in theory, the broadcaster could be found to have breached its statutory commitments.


although i guess its not as clear cut with regard to itn bulletins on itv, as there isnt a licence as such is there? but i would imagine there is a requirement for all bulletins to be live?

as for the itn news channel - that wouldnt have been subject to the strict guidelines set down for channel 3.

and why is this thread still in the wrong forum - charlie must be too busy warning and banning people Rolling Eyes
AN
Andrew Founding member
tvmercia posted:
dvboy posted:
The overnight bulletins are pre-recorded, aren't they?


i thought pre-recording news bulletins was considered a cardinal sin (i know most news programmes pre-record some sequences) - hence why central news east got a slap on the bum for pre-recording an entire late news bulletin recently?

I think they may be pre-recorded but near to transmission

This was especially the case in the days when there were different overnight schedules across the UK so the bulletins wern't on at the same time in every region. Hence "I'll be back with more news later "
JO
Jonathan
Andrew posted:
tvmercia posted:
dvboy posted:
The overnight bulletins are pre-recorded, aren't they?


i thought pre-recording news bulletins was considered a cardinal sin (i know most news programmes pre-record some sequences) - hence why central news east got a slap on the bum for pre-recording an entire late news bulletin recently?

I think they may be pre-recorded but near to transmission

This was especially the case in the days when there were different overnight schedules across the UK so the bulletins wern't on at the same time in every region. Hence "I'll be back with more news later "

Yeh, makes sense because regions will have their own programmes overnight now and again won't they? This thread really ought to be moved to the newsroom.

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