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fanoftv
Austin316uk posted:
fanoftv posted:

Yeah. It's such a shame that they can't keep them in one spot and add programmes between or following them to give a different style of programme rather than tonight with trevor mcdonald.
As Des O Connor said on Today with Des & Mel to guest Lee Mack ( who starred in the original Sketch Show on ITV, and is now starring in the US prime time version with Kelsey Grammar), isn't it a shame that a programme that is going out prime time in the US was pushed around the schedules and late at night over here.

Lee Mack said that he couldn't really say anything, but what he did say was that 'It's ITV!', and that makes sense, whether he meant that's how ITV do things or that he was on an ITV programme at that moment.


That is EXACTLY how ITV do things - they have their lovely core line of shows which will always be around (namely Emmerdale, Coronation Street, Heartbeat and Where The Heart Is, and of course any spare-of-the-moment 'reality' shows), and everything else gets either shuffled around, axed without being given a proper chance, or just treated like crap!

I remember back to when Coronation Street was on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and Emmerdale Tuesday and Thursday.
This was also when we had proper prime-time gameshows, and before that hideous excuse for a news programme 'Tonight with Trevor McDonald' came along. Now THAT was proper prime-time ITV!!!


Yeah I agree with that. It's a shame that we'll never get that again.
I wouldn't even mind if they tried and put programmes dropped off ITV1 onto ITV2 and 3. Or increased amounts of new comedy, dramas and documentaries, even if they are cheap onto ITV 2 & 3.
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North East
russnet posted:

Well, I've just seen the logo on the telly as part of a vote to choose which programme you would like to appear on a stamp (which has been mentioned elsewhere in thread) Surely this is a daft vote anyway, a choice between Emmerdale, which only became popular in 90's then we have The Bill which has been on the air for about 20 years or so. Then we have Coronation Street with says ITV all over. It's been on the air practically for ITV's birth.


Emmerdale has been voted for by This Morning viewers. See what happens when you let the public vote. How could they not vote for Coronation Street?
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russnet Founding member
They had a top 5 actors vote around Christmas time on This Morning and they drafted Barry Norman in and you could tell he didn't want to be there because the choices made were not of the top actor quality as they seemed to be voted by the housewives who chose looks over acting.
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Johnny83
To be honest I have now accepted the fact that ITV 1 has to be a national station, ever since infact the death of LWT.

To be honest I would love it to go back to the days of Thames & Central but have accepted that it won't

However I don't agree with ITV's policy of dropping programmes mid way through a run. If they don't think it will be that successful, show it on ITV 2 first, then if it does well show it on ITV 1 at a later date.

But in this day & age (in the UK at least) regional programming no longer has precidence
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tvguy
How do you know we won't get regions back? We PROBABLY won't but we might if Ofcom get fierce or Mr.Allen leaves!
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Adam
tvguy posted:
How do you know we won't get regions back? We PROBABLY won't but we might if Ofcom get fierce or Mr.Allen leaves!


Even if the regions would not return, the departure of Charles Allen would be a cause for huge celebration.
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nwtv2003
tvguy posted:
How do you know we won't get regions back? We PROBABLY won't but we might if Ofcom get fierce or Mr.Allen leaves!


As I have explained in this Thread previously, that there are many reasons why Regional presentation won't be coming back at all. You have to remember ITV is a commercial channel that is competing in an overcrowded market place with 200 channels or so, so it needs high ratings in order to get revenue for programming.

It makes logic business sense for ITV to have a team of five or six announcers based in London and have 2 main Transmission centres in operation, rather than have a hell of alot of announcers at a few centres, who are only making the same announcements as their other regional counterparts. They created the London team as it would be likely that it would save the business alot of money and time, if they kept regional announcements going for even more years it would be likely that it would lead ITV into a loss, not a profit.

So I see the having a few people annoucing in London a good idea, though I agree they can do better as they get on my nerves alot of the time. Wouldn't it also be pointless that one company that owns most of the Network, has the same schedule each night in each region, but has at least 11 different centres doing continuity, that's just stupid. ITV is near to one company, where as it used to be one network based up of 15 regions.

ITV is a business, one that is ran by Charles Allen, granted he is very unpopular on here, but it is his job, to run a huge merged media giant which has to make savings, due to the demands of the shareholders of ITV Plc, he is only doing what they are telling him to do, as it is their money that is invested into ITV, not Allen's!

I also wouldn't put any money for Ofcom to do anything, they couldn't give a sh*t, they were the ones who OK-d the merger, they're the ones who are happy to cut the amount of regional programming and what have you. ITV are only obliging to Ofcom's rules, and for programmes and services to Public service that have low ratings or little interest, then ITV will produce the bare minimum, as it loses ITV money.

There was a time when the only other choice was BBC1 or BBC2, and people would watch programmes for the sake of it, even if they didn't like it, but now as viewers have that choice, then they would probably rather watch something of their choice, though this can apply to the expansions of DVD's, Computers/Internet or simply going out (and getting a life!)

Frankly most people couldn't give a toss about ITV presentation, as long as people's favourites such as Coronation Street and Emmerdale are there in the schedules, then people aren't going to care how ITV is ran and what have you.
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thebrainbox
I'm actually quite looking forward to the celebrations! The idents at the moment are a bit too bland for me but knowing they've just gone under an overhaul I'll shut my mouth. CITV presentation meanwhile could do with a bit of a revamp. I'm currently having an ideas explosion on how to revamp CITV's output (and without putting any mocks up yet) so far I've come up with a dozen ideas to outdo its rivals CBBC, including mocks so far based around animal paws and paint mess... There actually could work quite well as a family set of idents ala BBC2, featuring the CITV logo in different situations. Watch this space 2morrow for some uploads (when I can find some webspace!) but for now, I reckon I'll work on my idents Wink

There was a rumour floating about notso long ago on the subject of CITV that CDUK was facing the chop, so we'll see no more of gorgeous Cat Deeley now she's got other commitments like Stars In their Eyes and other stuff on the BBC, so can someone please enlighten me. Could we be seeing the return of the Chart Show(yeh, and pigs might fly) or is the new Orange Playlists gonna be our new Saturday morning music show?? BTW I unfortunately don't read the papers all the time, so anyone here would have a better idea of whats happening than me! I do go on DigitalSpy mind you from time to time! Only I save my self the effort & come here instead. I get more juicy entertainment in these forums then I do out of any of the flipping tabloids!
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Nicky
Despite all your negative comments about how ITV will celebrate their 50th anniversary, I am also looking forward to it. Take a look at an ITV press release from May last year, which gives an idea of what will be shown during the anniversary period:

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STATEMENT
12 May 2004

ITV PLANS 50TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATIONS FOR 2005

ITV will be marking its 50th anniversary in 2005 with a line up of specially commissioned programmes and nationwide events on and off screen celebrating the network’s history and regional roots.

Full details of programmes commissioned to commemorate the anniversary will be unveiled later this year but on-air celebrations will include a star-studded gala event honouring ITV’s biggest names past and present, a showcase of the nation’s favourite ITV programmes from across the years and a series of regional programmes celebrating the diversity of ITV’s regional companies. Viewers will be able to see some of the best programmes from ITV's vast library throughout 2004 on ITV 3 - the network’s new channel which launches later this year. Melvyn Bragg will present a landmark five part series entitled The History of ITV on ITV1. 49-Up, the latest instalment in the long-running documentary series that started on ITV in 1964, will also return to ITV in 2005.

A large scale programme of on and off air activities, both regional and national will be overseen by Liam Hamilton who takes on a new role as Events Controller, ITV’s 50th Anniversary Commemoration, reporting to Nigel Pickard, Director of Programmes at ITV and working closely with Charles Allen, Chief Executive of ITV plc.

Nigel Pickard said: “This is an enormous undertaking and we are delighted to have someone with Liam’s experience and professionalism to take it on.

“We want this to be a celebration that everyone across ITV’s nationwide regions can join in with and enjoy. It’s an ambitious and demanding project to which Liam will bring a huge amount of enthusiasm, creativity and skill.”

Liam Hamilton said: “This is a unique opportunity for us to remind the nation of the breadth and depth ITV’s stunning archive of popular programming. It’s also a fantastic opportunity for me to work on such an important, landmark event.”
ITV’s Granada franchise started broadcasting in 1956. It is the only franchise licensee out of the “first big four” of 1955 left. Since then the company has become the most popular commercial channel in Britain, watched by an average of around 45 million people a week. ITV is now made up of a network of 15 different regional licences each with its own set of obligations and conditions designed to reflect the particular character of their region and the interests of their viewers. ITV plc owns twelve of the ITV licences. The remainder are owned by SMG, Ulster, and Channel.


To add to this, I sent an e-mail to the ITV Duty Officer in around late 2003/early 2004 regarding the 50th anniversary. This is what I recieved:

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You can be reassured that this special event will not go without mention.

Regards,
ITV Duty Officer
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tvguy
Instead of dropping CD:uk,i'd rather they tried new presenters.And gave it new titles or at least refreshed them!
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Allan100
sorry if it has been mentioned before, but is it true only London started 50 years ago? Confused So surely other regions should have to wait?
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
No as far as I am aware originally ITV wasn't regional (could be very wrong). We still have a big old TV ariel that points in the direction of the main London transmitter from the times before our relatively local Sandy Heath transmitter was installed.

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