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MR
mr_vivian
I’m not sure that the public really cares as much about TV channels’ birthdays as we here might like to think.


Graham Norton hit the nail on the head when asked about his show's 20th birthday by Phil & Holly on This Morning: "The only people that actually care about that sort of thing are me, and the people at my office... audiences don't care, they just want to turn on and see the best show they can see."

Bit awks considering This Morning have a commemorative programme every time either of them has a bowel movement.


I don't think that's fair at all. They've marked 18, 20, 21, 25 and 30 - all the milestones everyone celebrates.


It is a big achievement for a magazine show so I get why they celebrate it. But their 30th was the weakest because they were going over old ground and then there was the toe curling Fern interview. Hopefully they'll not do another one until the 40th or 50th.

As for itv2 celebrating.. well it's a youth channel now so it's not really the same channel from what it was so it'd be lost on most people including me because I couldn't receive it for almost 10 years after it started.
MA
mannewskev

Graham Norton hit the nail on the head when asked about his show's 20th birthday by Phil & Holly on This Morning: "The only people that actually care about that sort of thing are me, and the people at my office... audiences don't care, they just want to turn on and see the best show they can see."

Bit awks considering This Morning have a commemorative programme every time either of them has a bowel movement.


I don't think that's fair at all. They've marked 18, 20, 21, 25 and 30 - all the milestones everyone celebrates.


It is a big achievement for a magazine show so I get why they celebrate it. But their 30th was the weakest because they were going over old ground and then there was the toe curling Fern interview. Hopefully they'll not do another one until the 40th or 50th.


That's a separate discussion though.
ST
Stuart
DE88 posted:
It shouldn't be forgotten that 7 December 1998 also saw the end of a 35-year-old ITV and current affairs institution, less than two hours after ITV2's launch.

I still have an excellent documentary 'The World in Action Years' from January 2013 on my Sky box.

I don't know whether it's on YouTube. I would upload it to there, but ITV are (justifiably) quite protective of their copyright and try to shut down accounts of people who post whole programmes. Shocked
WH
Whataday Founding member
I’m not sure that the public really cares as much about TV channels’ birthdays as we here might like to think.


Graham Norton hit the nail on the head when asked about his show's 20th birthday by Phil & Holly on This Morning: "The only people that actually care about that sort of thing are me, and the people at my office... audiences don't care, they just want to turn on and see the best show they can see."

Bit awks considering This Morning have a commemorative programme every time either of them has a bowel movement.


I don't think that's fair at all. They've marked 18, 20, 21, 25 and 30 - all the milestones everyone celebrates.


I was more referring to them celebrating milestones like Phillip's 25 years in television, Alison's 10 years on the show, moving studios to an identical set which (was given about seven weeks of airtime), Holly's Birthday... Phillip getting a new iPad...

Again, not being altogether serious. But they're very self indulgent when it comes to that sort of thing so it was amusing to watch Graham writing it off as nonsense.
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mannewskev

Graham Norton hit the nail on the head when asked about his show's 20th birthday by Phil & Holly on This Morning: "The only people that actually care about that sort of thing are me, and the people at my office... audiences don't care, they just want to turn on and see the best show they can see."

Bit awks considering This Morning have a commemorative programme every time either of them has a bowel movement.


I don't think that's fair at all. They've marked 18, 20, 21, 25 and 30 - all the milestones everyone celebrates.


I was more referring to them celebrating milestones like Phillip's 25 years in television, Alison's 10 years on the show, moving studios to an identical set which (was given about seven weeks of airtime), Holly's Birthday... Phillip getting a new iPad...

Again, not being altogether serious. But they're very self indulgent when it comes to that sort of thing so it was amusing to watch Graham writing it off as nonsense.


You referred to a "commemorative programme" though. They've only done that for some of the show's significant birthdays. For things like Phillip's 25 years in TV or Alison's anniversary, they ran features but didn't devote the whole programme to it.
AN
Andrew Founding member
The difference is that This Morning is a magazine show with 10 hours a week to fill, so any excuse to dig into the archives and show some old clips is welcome.

Whereas Graham Norton is one hour a week and the expectation is that it is new content. A show that looks back at 10 years on the air or whatever would be perceived by many as just a cheap compilation show to fill a week when he’s on holiday
Stuart and mannewskev gave kudos
BR
Brekkie
Talking of which he's got a "behind the scenes" show in the New Year finding out what makes a "great story" from some of his guests.

Back on topic and good to see Timewasters returning next year. ITV2 don't do much scripted stuff but have had quite a good hit rate with their comedy in recent years - well, this and Plebs at least.

https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/news/3214/timewasters_series_2/
DE
DE88
DE88 posted:

I don't think that's fair at all. They've marked 18, 20, 21, 25 and 30 - all the milestones everyone celebrates.


It was pointed out on the Irish TV thread when RTÉ2 didn't celebrate its 40th anniversary earlier this autumn - just as it hadn't celebrated any of its previous milestone anniversaries - that too much navel-gazing can be off-putting for the general public... Embarassed Wink


Define "too much".


Celebrating *every* milestone anniversary could be considered a bit too much, could it not?

Channel 4 celebrated its 25th, and acknowledged its 5th and 15th - but didn't do anything on air for its 10th, 18th, 20th, 21st and 30th, AFAIK. (I'd be surprised if it did nothing for its 40th, mind - I mean, Four At Forty, how could that *not* be celebrated? Wink)

LWT pulled out all the stops for its 21st and 30th, but not for its 25th. Likewise, Granada put a lot of effort into its 30th, but not so much for its 40th. Unless I'm very much mistaken, of course (copyright Murray Walker).

Interestingly, Coronation Street celebrated its 35th, which isn't *quite* as big a milestone as the 25th, 30th, 40th or 50th. Emmerdale didn't - unless, again, I've been misinformed.

MA
mannewskev
DE88 posted:
DE88 posted:

It was pointed out on the Irish TV thread when RTÉ2 didn't celebrate its 40th anniversary earlier this autumn - just as it hadn't celebrated any of its previous milestone anniversaries - that too much navel-gazing can be off-putting for the general public... Embarassed Wink


Define "too much".


Celebrating *every* milestone anniversary could be considered a bit too much, could it not?

Channel 4 celebrated its 25th, and acknowledged its 5th and 15th - but didn't do anything on air for its 10th, 18th, 20th, 21st and 30th, AFAIK. (I'd be surprised if it did nothing for its 40th, mind - I mean, Four At Forty, how could that *not* be celebrated? Wink)

LWT pulled out all the stops for its 21st and 30th, but not for its 25th. Likewise, Granada put a lot of effort into its 30th, but not so much for its 40th. Unless I'm very much mistaken, of course (copyright Murray Walker).

Interestingly, Coronation Street celebrated its 35th, which isn't *quite* as big a milestone as the 25th, 30th, 40th or 50th. Emmerdale didn't - unless, again, I've been misinformed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDet3hqNv0I


It's subjective. I don't think it is, for a daily live magazine programme.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Did Coronation Street celebrate 35 years nationally or was it just something Granada did in the region?
NW
nwtv2003
Did Coronation Street celebrate 35 years nationally or was it just something Granada did in the region?


The only thing I recall was that ident being shown for about a week or so in December 1995. Certainly the QE2 Episode/Video release was also part of the 35th anniversary celebration. I believe the sleeve to the VHS featured this branding too.
JE
Jez Founding member
Did Coronation Street celebrate 35 years nationally or was it just something Granada did in the region?


Nationally. They seemed to make a big deal about the 35th, almost as much as they did for 40. They had a special show on ITV which was shown in all regions. I seem to remember there was also a magazine for the 35th as well as, a book and the QE2 video mentioned above.

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