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IS
Inspector Sands
I always regret asking such questions as someone usually comes back with all the details, but how does broadcasting space work with cable, as Virgin seems to have expanded quite considerably, with HD at least, over recent months. Do they in theory have an infinite amount of space to broadcast from, or is there some kind of transponder/mux type thing going on?

You are not the only one, Brekkie. I have often wondered the same.

A cable network will always require as much upgrade as a satellite, but the cost would vary. I have no idea of the cost differessional between two.

They're very different platforms.

Satellite is limited by the number of satellites in the sky in a particular orbital position and the frequencies used by them. However with the satellite platforms we're used to in the UK (at 28.2 and 28.5 degrees west), no broadcaster owns any satellites so once the current cluster is filled it's filled until Astra or Eutelsat launch some more. Virtually all the bandwidth on the 28.8 But there's only so many that can be put in one position as the frequencies (both ground to space and vice versa) will run out eventually. 3 more Astra satellites are on order for the position so there's a lot of capacity left before space runs out.

Cable is different, the platform owner owns and controls everything from the headend to the set top box, however there is a physical limit there. The fibre-optic can carry a lot of data but the co-ax cable between cabinet and home is more limited. The set top box can only receive and transmit within a certain range of frequencies and once they're filled up that's it unless lots of equipment gets replaced. However as Virgin et al own everything from end to end it's a lot easier but probably more expensive to expand than satellite. However the network is theoretically able to be reconfigured however they want, the VOD technology could theoretically be used to provide linear TV channels too with an almost unlimited choice of channels.
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 26 March 2010 1:19am - 4 times in total
BR
Brekkie
Thanks for the explanation - think I understand!

Would I be right in assuming that with cable rather than all channels being broadcast to your house and you choosing which you watch, you choose which channel you want and then that channel is "broadcast" to your house?
IS
Inspector Sands
Thanks for the explanation - think I understand!

Would I be right in assuming that with cable rather than all channels being broadcast to your house and you choosing which you watch, you choose which channel you want and then that channel is "broadcast" to your house?


No, all the linear channels get sent down the cable to you and your box tunes into the multiplexed stream that it's on, it's just like sat or terrestrial except it's radio signals down a wire rather than through air.

VOD however does work how you suggest - the programme 'plays' at the cable head end and then is sent down just to you. As I mentioned in my last post, theoretically, they could expand their linear channel line up by doing it that way too, I believe the likes of HomeChoice worked that way originally
:-(
A former member
I'm surprised with less than a week until the full launch of ITV1 HD that there's no mention of it as yet on the ITV homepage - let alone on the ITV HD page itself.
BR
Brekkie
I think it's very much a soft-launch - it's not like ITV have anything special in HD in it's first few days. They'll push it more closer towards the World Cup I'm sure.

E4 though pushing their "higher definitioner" channel a bit again though with the impending launch on Virgin this week. Does Film4 HD also launch this week?
NW
nwtv2003
Does Film4 HD also launch this week?


Not at this moment in time, I think it's either April or sometime during the Summer, placeholders on the EPG have appeared for ITV1 HD, E4 HD, Discovery HD and Eurosport HD.
RR
RR
Virgin Media have been upgrading their network recently in order to carry additional channels.

One result is that, apart from ITV HD, not all areas will get the new HD channels at the same time, as not all areas have been fully upgraded, but this is only a matter of weeks.

Among the things they have done recently are:

1 - dropped Men and Motors
2 - removed any local channels on digital - including local radio stations. Now all channels provided are nationally available (e.g. the only BBC local radio channel is BBC London because it is on satellite)
3 - removed the FM service - whereby until recently an analogue radio feed was provided
4 - remove, or in a few cases reduce, the analogue TV service.
BR
Brekkie
I'd have thought the analogue cable service would be long scrapped.
RR
RR
I'd have thought the analogue cable service would be long scrapped.

There are some areas that were switched off a while ago, but equally, some are being switched off next month, and over the next few months. Their last set of results still had 87,000 analogue TV customers.
TO
tomo359
Does anyone else think ITV are being so stupid with the launch.

No promotion at all, also on Friday and Saturday there are hardly any HD programmes at all!!
Surely maybe on the Saturday they could have done a special selection of HD programmes that would work on regular ITV1 as well. Maybe even just two hours showing some drama, documentaries etc

Very poor indeed.
BR
Brekkie
That's why it's not being promoted. Considering the equipment isn't exactly readily available at the moment, it's all a soft launch at the moment (I don't think BBC HD or C4 HD being on Freeview has been advertised either). ITV will push it towards the World Cup I'm sure, and perhaps may mention with the football next week that ITV HD is now on Freeview HD.
EJ
EJNutz
ITV1 HD website is launched

http://www.itv.com/itv1hd/

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