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Square Eyes Founding member
Larry the Loafer posted:
Andrew Wood posted:
True to their word, I received a follow-up email yesterday which would appear to show that they listen:
Quote:
Dear Mr Wood
Thank you for your enquiry regarding the ITV1 HD DOG.
From now on, only native HD programmes will carry a DOG on the ITV1 HD channel. The DOG has been changed to a grey colour with reduced luminance.
Once again, thank you for your feedback which is welcome at ITV.
Regards,
ITV Viewer Services


That's making me wonder why BGT, which claims to be in HD this series, is DOGless.


Not in HD for the auditions.
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Larry the Loafer
Ah, fair enough.
NG
noggin Founding member
I suspect the heavily-edited audition shows will be SD but the live studio shows HD?

18 days later

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tomo359
I think the DOG on the channel has been made even more faint which is brilliant!
I am watching Lion Country now, and the logo is hardly noticeable, even when actually looking for it!

Now why can't ITV do this to their other digital channels?!

Also, the HD quality on Lion Country is truly amazing! Best HD quality I've ever seen!

18 days later

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davidhorman
Bit surprised to see an episode of Columbo from 1992 being shown in widescreen, and even more surprisingly it appears to be an HD transfer - it certainly looks sharp enough, and the DOG is present.

Seem to be a few problems today - flashing between bumpers and title cards into the break, idents and promos pausing...
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derek500
davidhorman posted:
Bit surprised to see an episode of Columbo from 1992 being shown in widescreen, and even more surprisingly it appears to be an HD transfer - it certainly looks sharp enough, and the DOG is present.


Columbo was shot on 35mm film, so not too difficult to do a 16:9/HD re-master, if the original film stock is in good condition.
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Dave Founding member
I have been pleasantly surprised with ITV 1 HD, there seems to be a good amount of HD content on the channel and not just the high profile documentary programmes,, general entertainment shows as well.,

and in stark contrast to the SD channel the picture quality is top notch!

Keep it up ITV!
NG
noggin Founding member
davidhorman posted:
Bit surprised to see an episode of Columbo from 1992 being shown in widescreen, and even more surprisingly it appears to be an HD transfer - it certainly looks sharp enough, and the DOG is present.


Because most US shows in the 60s, 70s and some in the 80s were both shot AND edited on 35mm film they are worth re-transferring in HD - and many US series have been. (Knight Rider is another example)

Some shows shot on film in the 80s were edited on SD videotape, but AIUI some of these are being remastered in HD (by retransferring the camera rushes and reconforming). However this is more expensive.

Columbo was definitely a film edit though - so relatively straightforward.

(ISTR that some series have been remastered in both 16:9 and 12:9/4:3 pillarbox)
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David
I guess most (all?) episodes of Columbo were made for TV in 4:3, so if they go back to the film and make a HD 16:9 or wider version, won't we see things that were meant to be outside of the frame like boom mics and other equipment?
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IndigoTucker
davidlees posted:
I guess most (all?) episodes of Columbo were made for TV in 4:3, so if they go back to the film and make a HD 16:9 or wider version, won't we see things that were meant to be outside of the frame like boom mics and other equipment?


No, that's only when it's the otherway around, ie a 16x9 film was shown on 4x3 tv with the top and bottom of the image unmasked. If anything, a HD 16:9 image cuts a lot of the image away.
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David
IndigoTucker posted:
No, that's only when it's the otherway around, ie a 16x9 film was shown on 4x3 tv with the top and bottom of the image unmasked. If anything, a HD 16:9 image cuts a lot of the image away.


I assumed they shot in a wide format at the time and then blanked the sides in the 70s/80s to show on TV. Are you saying that to get the 16:9 image they just put black bars across the top and bottom of the 4:3 picture? Isn't that a step backwards? Surely a 4:3 image with 1080 lines would be a better way to go?
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IndigoTucker
davidlees posted:
IndigoTucker posted:
No, that's only when it's the otherway around, ie a 16x9 film was shown on 4x3 tv with the top and bottom of the image unmasked. If anything, a HD 16:9 image cuts a lot of the image away.


I assumed they shot in a wide format at the time and then blanked the sides in the 70s/80s to show on TV. Are you saying that to get the 16:9 image they just put black bars across the top and bottom of the 4:3 picture? Isn't that a step backwards? Surely a 4:3 image with 1080 lines would be a better way to go?


Yep, 16x9 'remasters' of shows shot for TV lop the top and bottom off, sometimes sensitively, sometimes not. The cropping can be lessened because modern telecines take in more information from the left/right of the frame, but there is still a proportion of the frame lost. The Bluray edition of Thunderbirds has been done this way, yet The Prisoner is presented as 4x3 in a 16x9 frame, which IMO should be how it's done.

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