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(March 2010)

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Markymark posted:
Brekkie posted:
I'm amazed ITV went to the effort at all considering they could have got away with using exactly the same as the SD channel.


Not only that but, unlike C4 HD, they are misleading people into thinking they're watching HD content, when they're not.


No they haven't, if its a HD show, the announcer says "now on ITV1 and ITV1 HD, its ____" whereas when it isn't a HD show, the announcer simply says "now on ITV1, its ___".
DB
dbl
Yes, but an announcer isn't talking all the way through an hour programme.
TO
TODAY
But at the end of a promo the announcer now always says "on ITV1 and ITV1 HD" even when the programme isn't actually in HD
MA
Markymark
dbl posted:
Yes, but an announcer isn't talking all the way through an hour programme.


Just give 'em time. . .
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Markymark posted:
Brekkie posted:
I'm amazed ITV went to the effort at all considering they could have got away with using exactly the same as the SD channel.


Not only that but, unlike C4 HD, they are misleading people into thinking they're watching HD content, when they're not.


Why is it misleading, because they've knocked up a few idents and a dog with HD on it ?

But then that's similar to the likes of ESPN, Living, Discovery, Eurosport HD & Sky 1 amongst others, none of whom show all true native HD content.

Broadcasters have opted to showcase their native HD content by offering a simulcast of existing services. There is still very little content in true HD, so for the rest of the time, viewers get upscaled SD.

There is still a noticeable difference in picture quality between the SD and 'HD' services and so regardless of the semantics of using the HD term, viewers are receiving an enhanced service, and for some programmes true HD. How else are broadcasters able to brand these services ?

I think it's only the BBC that are providing a scheduled HD service (with the addition of simulcasts of other BBC output), with all true native HD (Sky Movie channels excepted). Of the simulcasters, it's probably Sky 1 that has the most native HD content.
Last edited by Square Eyes on 5 April 2010 7:13pm
AN
Ant
Was Frost in high def last night? I'm in STV Land so couldn't record ITV1 HD which is really a major annoyance.
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Ant posted:
Was Frost in high def last night? I'm in STV Land so couldn't record ITV1 HD which is really a major annoyance.


It wasn't.

Here's a list of ITV1 native HD content for the next week. (Yes it's a Bank Holiday and I was bored).

Today - nothing

Tuesday 6th April

21:00 Law & Order : UK

Wednesday 7th April

19:30 UEFA Champions League Live

Thursday 8th April

21:00 The Bill

Friday 9th April

20:00 Film : Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire
23:20 Film : My Little Eye
01:05 Film : The Day of The Jackal

Saturday 10th April

16:35 FA Cup Live
19:00 Film : Harry Potter & The Order of the Phoenix

Sunday 11th April

15:30 FA Cup Live
20:00 Foyles War
23:15 Film : A Mighty Wind
00:55 UEFA Champions League Weekly
MA
Markymark
Square Eyes posted:
Markymark posted:
Brekkie posted:
I'm amazed ITV went to the effort at all considering they could have got away with using exactly the same as the SD channel.


Not only that but, unlike C4 HD, they are misleading people into thinking they're watching HD content, when they're not.


Why is it misleading, because they've knocked up a few idents and a dog with HD on it ?


Yes, to be blunt. They should follow C4's example and if they MUST have a DOG, only display it during native HD broadcasts

Square Eyes posted:

But then that's similar to the likes of ESPN, Living, Discovery, Eurosport HD & Sky 1 amongst others, none of whom show all true native HD content.


Then they're just as misleading then

Square Eyes posted:

Broadcasters have opted to showcase their native HD content by offering a simulcast of existing services. There is still very little content in true HD, so for the rest of the time, viewers get upscaled SD.

There is still a noticeable difference in picture quality between the SD and 'HD' services and so regardless of the semantics of using the HD term, viewers are receiving an enhanced service, and for some programmes true HD. How else are broadcasters able to brand these services ?


As higher quality services with an occasional genuine HD broadcast. There's enough confusion with the punters and the 'HD Ready' product branding, without the broadcasters adding to it.
AN
Ant
Square Eyes posted:
Ant posted:
Was Frost in high def last night? I'm in STV Land so couldn't record ITV1 HD which is really a major annoyance.


It wasn't.

Makes you wonder why they've put so much effort into that channel really.

I'd be expecting the election debate and the World Cup to be on it though?
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Markymark posted:
Square Eyes posted:
Markymark posted:
Brekkie posted:
I'm amazed ITV went to the effort at all considering they could have got away with using exactly the same as the SD channel.


Not only that but, unlike C4 HD, they are misleading people into thinking they're watching HD content, when they're not.


Why is it misleading, because they've knocked up a few idents and a dog with HD on it ?


Yes, to be blunt. They should follow C4's example and if they MUST have a DOG, only display it during native HD broadcasts



Yet Channel 4 have named their service 'Channel 4 HD' and it appears on the EPG as such. Is that ok then, as long as there is no DOG or ident ?
MA
Markymark
Square Eyes posted:
Markymark posted:
Square Eyes posted:
Markymark posted:
Brekkie posted:
I'm amazed ITV went to the effort at all considering they could have got away with using exactly the same as the SD channel.


Not only that but, unlike C4 HD, they are misleading people into thinking they're watching HD content, when they're not.


Why is it misleading, because they've knocked up a few idents and a dog with HD on it ?


Yes, to be blunt. They should follow C4's example and if they MUST have a DOG, only display it during native HD broadcasts



Yet Channel 4 have named their service 'Channel 4 HD' and it appears on the EPG as such. Is that ok then, as long as there is no DOG or ident ?


It's less than ideal, but at least it's not as misleading.
DE
derek500
Square Eyes posted:


But then that's similar to the likes of ESPN, Living, Discovery, Eurosport HD & Sky 1 amongst others, none of whom show all true native HD content.


I haven't seen ESPN HD or Living HD, but Discovery HD only shows native HD programmes, Eurosport HD has an additional DOG saying ´native HD´ when it is and Sky1HD only have a Sky1 DOG when not showing true HD.

ITV are confusing viewers. They're promoting SD shows as being on ITV and ITV HD.

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