DJ
djt0311
Things are really quite on the forum this morning, everyone glued to their tv's I guess. Please will someone tell me what is happening with ITV this morning and where has the Channel post gone ?
Dave - Jersey
Wishing he was at home infront of the tv !
Dave - Jersey
Wishing he was at home infront of the tv !
DA
DAS
Founding member
What do you mean 'what is happening with ITV'?
If you mean the launch on Sky Digital, well don't know really. It's apparently going to launch today, but hasn't yet - but then again it is only 1.18. Still a few more hours to go!
As for the Channel post: if you mean the topic, it's probably vanished like most of the threads on this forum!
EDIT: It's here: http://www.tvforum.co.uk/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=1&topic=1270
(Edited by DAS at 1:26 pm on Nov. 20, 2001)
If you mean the launch on Sky Digital, well don't know really. It's apparently going to launch today, but hasn't yet - but then again it is only 1.18. Still a few more hours to go!
As for the Channel post: if you mean the topic, it's probably vanished like most of the threads on this forum!
EDIT: It's here: http://www.tvforum.co.uk/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=1&topic=1270
(Edited by DAS at 1:26 pm on Nov. 20, 2001)
SU
StandUpAndBeSeated
Not having all the SUB-regions available is stupid!
Some regions (including Carlton West Country) only use the sub-regions for shorter bulletins, whereas the major editions (e.g. 1800 weeknights) are for the whole region, possibly with a short opt-out segment within them for the sub-regions.
In regions such as this, not having all sub-regions available is not quite so bad, as at least some of the time the news is relevant to everyone in the region in question.
But the likes of Carlton Central NEVER have a whole-region edition of the news, as ALL bulletins are sub-regional. In these cases, the current scenario is crap. What possible use is CNwest to people living in CNeast country or CNsouth country? It's NEVER gonna mention news in their areas is it?
In the same way the BBC will only put four or five regions on DigiSat initially, and introduce the rest later, I think ITV1 will have to eventually introduce all the sub-regions too.
Some regions (including Carlton West Country) only use the sub-regions for shorter bulletins, whereas the major editions (e.g. 1800 weeknights) are for the whole region, possibly with a short opt-out segment within them for the sub-regions.
In regions such as this, not having all sub-regions available is not quite so bad, as at least some of the time the news is relevant to everyone in the region in question.
But the likes of Carlton Central NEVER have a whole-region edition of the news, as ALL bulletins are sub-regional. In these cases, the current scenario is crap. What possible use is CNwest to people living in CNeast country or CNsouth country? It's NEVER gonna mention news in their areas is it?
In the same way the BBC will only put four or five regions on DigiSat initially, and introduce the rest later, I think ITV1 will have to eventually introduce all the sub-regions too.
JA
Not commercially viable. The number of extra viewers they'd get by having all the regions on Sky, never mind the sub-regions, is so small as to be insignificant. In other words, if ITV only put on a generic ITV1 channel this would be enough to get back 90% of the viewers the current situation is retrieving. The subregions only account for a tiny extra revenue, against a large spend to get them onto satellite.
Not going to happen I'm afraid. You'r talking about public service, and ITV's reason for entry to Sky is money, not public service
Not going to happen I'm afraid. You'r talking about public service, and ITV's reason for entry to Sky is money, not public service
SU
StandUpAndBeSeated
Well in that case, people living in the unavailable sub-regions would be better off if ITV had a
UK Today
type programme instead, so the chance of their area getting mentioned would be above zero%, albeit maybe only marginally.
The regional nature of ITV1 (or what's left of it) makes it not very well suited to satellite. If/when ITV1 has become a single channel, it would then be suitable for DigiSat. I think that's what they were originally waiting for - to become as united as possible before any launch on DigiSat - but the unification process is going more slowly than anticipated, so they've given in so as to maintain/retrieve viewers.
The regional nature of ITV1 (or what's left of it) makes it not very well suited to satellite. If/when ITV1 has become a single channel, it would then be suitable for DigiSat. I think that's what they were originally waiting for - to become as united as possible before any launch on DigiSat - but the unification process is going more slowly than anticipated, so they've given in so as to maintain/retrieve viewers.
DA
Not on Telewest, as far as I'm aware of anyway.
james2001 posted:
I've looked at Sky Digi online and all it says is 'adjoinign regions will be avilable on 963 and 964' so it looks like you can get your adjoining region (a similar service to what digital cable are offereing) but not all regions.
Not on Telewest, as far as I'm aware of anyway.
MV
Mr Videowall
Well, we do get our main region on 103, and adjacent regions on 963 and 964, but we also get the others via Other Channels.
So I'm glad I went for the one with the minidish
So I'm glad I went for the one with the minidish
DA
DAS
Founding member
I know nobody gives a toss, but I'll tell you about my situation which you probably know off by heart anyway.
Where I live (see sig), I can get Carlton London, Anglia and Meridian - all can be useful in providing some sort of local news for my particular area.
On Sky Digital, I get Carlton on 103, and Anglia and Meridian in the 900s. OK, seems right. BUT NO! Because of the sub-region situation, Anglia is the western version (wrong sub-region - doesn't provide my local news), and Meridian is the Southampton version (you see the pattern?)
So, in my case, I have technically no use for my borderline regions. They haven't considered the local news and which sub-region it comes from, just the name of the region itself.
I know, terrible isn't it.
Where I live (see sig), I can get Carlton London, Anglia and Meridian - all can be useful in providing some sort of local news for my particular area.
On Sky Digital, I get Carlton on 103, and Anglia and Meridian in the 900s. OK, seems right. BUT NO! Because of the sub-region situation, Anglia is the western version (wrong sub-region - doesn't provide my local news), and Meridian is the Southampton version (you see the pattern?)
So, in my case, I have technically no use for my borderline regions. They haven't considered the local news and which sub-region it comes from, just the name of the region itself.
I know, terrible isn't it.