Do UTV have much content on them though - I doubt it's worth updating the logo for an empty service.
The ITV pages used to be pretty good - decent info on all that's nights shows, and I think dedicated pages for CITV and the soaps too.
On Freeview at least only C4 have any kind of programming info on digital text - and that's still nowhere near as much as when "Teletext on 4" launched a few years ago.
It's about time ITV - and the BBC infact - put some programme pages on their digital text services.
Nice to see UTV's service still exists, I wonder if STV's/channel's do as well.
For those who never saw the old ITV region's text services, there's a gallery page here
I wonder if when GMTV is on if it changes over to GMTV still, It certainly did 2/3 days ago.(At least on Central)
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Just checked HTV Wales... and yes.
Is Westcountry the only station where the change to GMTV between 6-9:25 doesn't happen? It *used* to happen on Westcountry, but from September 1999 it changed permanently to 'Carlton', and has permanently been 'ITV1 Westcountry' since 2004 (not changed to 'itv1' now either).
Rather odd that even when Carlton still existed, other Carlton-owned stations still changed to 'GMTV' when GMTV was on, but Westcountry didn't.
If that is today's date than those pages have been in use for as much as ten years now.
Shame we can't see them on Sky.
Yes I just took them before I posted that. The strange thing is though, even though the whole thing is so ancient looking, all the information on it is bang up to date! The CSA details are the ones that are currently running on UTV, the blood donation details are for the next few weeks and there are other pages that I didn't post such as their radio station U105's current schedule etc etc! How hard would it be to update the main page to the new logo and new slogan?
Wouldn't surprise me if there were few people left who knew how to design new pages. Designing Teletext graphics is a bit of an artform - and there is a world of difference between updating existing pages based on templates and creating new templates. (On some text software anyway...)
Wouldn't surprise me if there were few people left who knew how to design new pages. Designing Teletext graphics is a bit of an artform - and there is a world of difference between updating existing pages based on templates and creating new templates. (On some text software anyway...)
I spent years doing my own text pages, until my trusty Master 128 gave up the ghost in 2001 (by which time I'd moved into websites anyway).
However I did download a couple of Windows teletext applications and it was a much easier way of doing graphics with a mouse. I could also type text and the software automatically put the page/line breaks in for you. Oh, and save page templates.
Whenever logos are reproduced in analogue teletext, I always thought they were "artists impressions" created manually, but then I found out that even as far back as the mid-1980s Ceefax worked from scanned-in images to reproduce corporate logos or the mastheads of the main national newspapers for Ceefax AM.
Whenever logos are reproduced in analogue teletext, I always thought they were "artists impressions" created manually, but then I found out that even as far back as the mid-1980s Ceefax worked from scanned-in images to reproduce corporate logos or the mastheads of the main national newspapers for Ceefax AM.
That's interesting, previously I had always thought they were designed manually too.
I found out otherwise from an Open University programme from 1986 which went behind the scenes of Ceefax. It also looked at "the future" for teletext, which at the time was Level 2 or HyperText (the higher res pages as seen on Ceefax In Vision between 1994-96).
Whenever logos are reproduced in analogue teletext, I always thought they were "artists impressions" created manually, but then I found out that even as far back as the mid-1980s Ceefax worked from scanned-in images to reproduce corporate logos or the mastheads of the main national newspapers for Ceefax AM.
That's interesting, previously I had always thought they were designed manually too.
Teletext ran (maybe still do) a children's picture page on Channel 4. Kids sent in their drawings and Teletext scanned them in. They came out looking quite good, I'm not sure how much retouching was done or what the original pictures looked like though.
Teletext ran (maybe still do) a children's picture page on Channel 4. Kids sent in their drawings and Teletext scanned them in. They came out looking quite good, I'm not sure how much retouching was done or what the original pictures looked like though.
4-Tel did exactly the same in their original incarnation. You had to send an SAE for some teletext graph paper.
I would imagine a fair but of retouching was necessary on most entries, the main reason being one space is lost every time there's a colour change.
That's rather unusual, but saying that I've noticed on the BBC they often put the title of the programme on the bar when it is starting. A bit like a Now/Next EPG really..
I'm not sure they should be doing that. Some TV receivers might use the data to store the channel name. So do a rescan at the wrong time and you could end up with P1 being labelled 'Eastenders' or P2 as 'Top Gear' !
In any case it's just another indication of the BBC's marketing dept ramming more of their 'promotional material' down our throats.
I did the same with all the ITV's I pick up on analogue, shame I can't rename freeview channels on my TV tho 