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ITV win horse racing rights from 2017

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Square Eyes Founding member
On the racing, good job C4 acquired the Formula 1 because come 2017 they have a lot of hours to fill. I believe the racing contract gave them around 300 hours of content. That's a lot of episodes of Come Dine with Me.
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
On the racing, good job C4 acquired the Formula 1 because come 2017 they have a lot of hours to fill. I believe the racing contract gave them around 300 hours of content. That's a lot of episodes of Come Dine with Me.

About a weeks worth.
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
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Toby Lerone UTV Newsline
I have been watching the darts on the BBC this afternoon but has Channel 4 Racing mentioned losing the rights at all this afternoon?

Also the new deal has been officially confirmed by ITV Press this afternoon, the rights start 1st January 2017 to 31st December 2020 with a minimum of 34 days of racing on ITV and 60 days on ITV4

See More at:
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press-releases/british-horseracing-announces-exclusive-domestic-tv-rights-deal-itv
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
I doubt C4 will mention losing the rights until their final broadcast - it's not something broadcasters like to brag about, though C4 have been quite dignified in defeat this time. Remember ultimately everyone involved in the show has effectively been given a years notice - and talking of which surely they could have held back the announcement another week or two rather than announce it on New Years Day.
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
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A former member
Actually the last time ITV covered a horse race was in 1991. Derby Day was covered jointly with Channel 4. So it'll be a 26 year gap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbMmDO_ZUeM


I wonder why ITV were showing this instead of Ch4, nice to see there kept the muisc, mind you it was it a ITV company that help get it on the air on ch4?

Turns out this may not have been live, it was recored and broadcast at 11.30 at night.
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Markymark Meridian (Thames Valley) South Today
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Wasn't unusual for the time certainly for C4 to act as over spill for ITV (the Olympics, Golden 4 Athletics) and I guess occassionally vice versa. I don't know if the 1991 race was a one-off or if ITV had continued to cover it since other rights had gone to C4. Can't think of anything that might have taken priority on C4 in early June at the time.
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
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Markymark Meridian (Thames Valley) South Today
Actually the last time ITV covered a horse race was in 1991. Derby Day was covered jointly with Channel 4. So it'll be a 26 year gap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbMmDO_ZUeM


I wonder why ITV were showing this instead of Ch4, nice to see there kept the muisc, mind you it was it a ITV company that help get it on the air on ch4?

Turns out this may not have been live, it was recored and broadcast at 11.30 at night.


Yes, looks very edited,

It was simulcast (live) on ITV for a few years until C4's transmitter network reached parity with BBC1/2/ITV, which was Dec 1987.

Didn't ITV simply dump horse racing onto C4 in 1983, starting with weekday races ? (back then ITV and 4's relationship for sports was similar to that of BBC 1 to BBC 2, (for obvious reasons)

ISTR that prior to horse racing on C4, weekday afternoons were simply the test card until 16:45. Cheap to fill programming hours, with and get some ad revenue (and who sold the ad revenue on C4 in the 80s ? Cool )
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Hatton Cross Central (West) Midlands Today
History lesson.
ITV racing was a feature in World Of Sport. It came over to Channel 4 because the then boss Jeremey Issacs, wanted something to show in the afternoon and thought the 'fresh air and green of the turf' would be ideal to fill the gap on his channel during the afternoons.

However, as ITV racing was still produced in-house for World Of Sport by the ITV contractor who was broadcasting to the area where the race track was (mostly Thames/LWT, Anglia, Southern and Yorkshire), in the short term the same team produced the coverage for Channel 4 as a '3 on 4 production'.
When ITV withdrew fully, Channel 4 then put the contract for coverage out to the indies, and the ITV Sport team left to set up Highflyer Productions..
Rest = History.

I have mixed feeling about this deal. Yet again, a sports governing body has take the money over visibility. It's monstrously hypocritical of some of the courses to moan about falling viewer numbers with Channel 4, but then agree a new four year deal with ITV which then proposes to move at least 2/3rds of the regular live Saturday afternoon coverage to ITV4.

If anything, ITV4 should be used to do a Morning Line style programme around an hour before the first race from whichever main track they are at that week, then show the first couple of races, move over to ITV for the 6 biggest races of the day from that and a secondary meeting, then move back to ITV4 for the last couple of races and a round-up/review.

Also - what is this love for Highflyer? It was only the increase and improvement in technology that was noticeable in the coverage.

Presentation wise it stood still for many years.
You had John McCrick (who on The Sunday Forum on At The Races, actually talks a lot of sense) but his dress sense and manner made him look like the sports resident clown. Alistair Down droned through his nose about the how wonderful the parade ring looked. John Francome always managed to talk about how it was different in his day, and Derek 'Tommo' Thompson, claimed to be everyone's mate, but they were all to quick to move away from him if they thought his interviews were dragging on for too long.

I've said it before. I prefer IMG coverage. Yes, during Royal Ascot and The Grand National between races there is a bit too much graded film pieces with deafening orchestral music over the voices, but the coverage has been solid. Having the 'studio' (which in reality is a converted NEP Vision OBU) where you can escape the braying hordes in the betting ring, and using the big touchscreen to analyse the last race was a great innovation.

They were on difficult ground to start with.
1 - It didn't help that many of Highflyers 'mates' in the sporting press were only too happy to knock them down before and during the coverage. It wasn't that bad. At least we didn't have Willie Carson, giggling like a schoolboy all the way through the coverage for the past 3 years of Royal Ascot. (Edit - I know Carson was BBC but IMG could have imported him across to 4, but thankfully didn't)

2- Viewing figures were not helped by the RHA allowing on-line book makers to stream races to internet punters if they staked a certain amount of money on that race.
If you are elsewhere in the house, and on-line and stick a £5 e/w on Operation Yewtree in the Grand National, you'll then stop on-line and watch the race there, rather than, in the 'old days' log off, find the nearest television and watch the coverage that way.

I wish ITV well trying to get traction for their new sport next year. I just hope they choose the production company well. They could do no worse that giving to Racing UK for them to do it - as they show most of the main or crown jewel races that ITV will show on a Saturday.

If not, hope we get a presenter with a good knowledge of the sport, plenty of experience of live television, and a cheeky sense of humour.
(waves at Matt Chapman of At The Races...)
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dosxuk Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
mind you it was it a ITV company that help get it on the air on ch4?


Until the mid-late 90s, Ch4 Racing was facilitated and produced by the ITV regional companies (going under the name 3on4 for a while). There are still some people working on it today who've been there since they worked for Thames / Yorkshire / Anglia / etc.
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A former member
ITV news are informing viewers about this change.
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bilky asko Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
ITV Horse Racing. It'll never work

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(Idea stolen from Alexia)

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