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ITV vows to continue phone votes

(November 2007)

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A former member
Of course I don;t wont such programmes to disappear but there has to a fair chance to entry and vote

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Broadcaster ITV has defended its use of phone-ins, despite recent scandals over shows like Saturday Night Takeaway.

"I don't think we should turn the clock back," said the company's director of television, Simon Shaps.

He was speaking at the launch of ITV1's winter schedule, which includes Rock Rivals - a drama where viewers can vote on the outcome of the plot.

Last month, an independent report found ITV viewers had spent millions of pounds on uncounted votes.

Auditors found "serious editorial issues" with shows like Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway, Gameshow Marathon and Soapstar Superstar.

'Modern'

ITV is estimated to be facing an £18 million bill in the wake of the report.

But Mr Shaps stood firm on the company's continued use of phone participation.

"It's a fantastic form of television, a modern form of television," he said.

Ant McPartlin and Dec Donnelly
Ant and Dec apologised for errors on their shows
However, he added: "Our first job is to make absolutely certain that when viewers vote, the outcome reflects what viewers voted for."

He also defended ITV chairman Michael Grade's decision not to sack TV bosses following the publication of the ITV report.

"Michael has drawn a line under the incidents we have seen. It's now very clear that we have got to get our house in order. Those mistakes or errors will not be tolerated again."

Soap show

Rock Rivals was originally announced in the summer - before the audit of ITV's shows.

It stars Michelle Collins and Sean Gallagher as a bickering husband and wife who both sit on the judging panel of an X Factor-style talent show.

Viewers will not be charged at premium rates to vote on the outcome of the drama, which is due to hit TV screens in early 2008.

Other shows announced for ITV's winter schedule included time-travelling drama Lost in Austen, Midnight Man, starring James Nesbitt, and the return of Stephen Fry in Kingdom.

Connie Fisher, who won the BBC's How Do You Solve A Problem Like Maria? last year takes the lead role in Caught in a Trap - about an obsessive Elvis Presley fan.

Jason Donovan and Martine McCutcheon star in Moving Wallpaper, a fictional drama about the making of a soap opera Echo Beach, which will also be shown on the network.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7095286.stm
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Brekkie
Worth mentioning that I'm a Celeb have upped their contribution to charity this year - it's now a massive 15p in every 50p vote.


Apart from Soapstar Superstar and Blue Peter though there has been no evidence to suggest any voting is rigged.

Text voting has been the main cause of problems with votes not being counted because they arrive late - but a simple disclaimer should be able to cover companies for that in the future if text voting returns. (e.g. Any votes made or received after the lines closed will not be counted but may still be charged). I think with texts it's the user and mobile company that has to take some responsibility - I'm sure most mobile users have sent or received a text which arrives sometime after it was actually sent.


Competition wise it's just common sense from the broadcasters which is required, though I think a 20% charity levy, even if it means registering as a lottery, would do a lot for goodwill. I do think some shows such as Deal or No Deal seem to be lacking something without the competition element - though of course with others there absence is more warranted.


10 months on though from this story developing and there is no sign of any official code of conduct as far as I know - while the regulators have still not been held to account at all. In the case of OFCOM, they had been encouraging broadcasters to seek other sources of revenue, while with ICSTIS you have to ask what on earth they had been doing in the last few years when despite regular suspicion around TV phone-ins, they made no progress until the TV companies began investigating for themselves.
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tvarksouthwest
Of course Simon Shaps thinks phone-ins are "a fantastic form of television, a modern form of television" - they ruddy well pay his wages!

But Shaps remains part of the problem. As long as he's still there ITV will carry on pumping out the same formulaic programming. He should have gone with Charles Allen but he didn't, and Michael Grade doesn't have the balls to get him out.
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Mr D'Arcy
I think ITV are getting very greedy. Many of its programmes now come complete with a naff competition, even the local news! ITV is now just one long commerical.
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tvarksouthwest
What local news is yours?
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Andrew Founding member
There have been competitions on local news for decades, although at one time they were answers on a postcard rather than phone in

It's only now that loads of phone in's have been banned when people realise that a few competitions are ok and add to the enjoyment of the programme. The blanket ban across the whole BBC is still over the top
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tvarksouthwest
Westcountry Live does run competitions, but they are not seen as "a must" as they would be on This Morning, for example.
MD
Mr D'Arcy
The West Tonight is, sadly, my local news programme.

Yes, regional news have had competitions in the past but it always related to something to do with either the region or a local news topic. I've stumbled into the programme once to find Lisa Aziz trying to fleece its viewers for cash. The prize was a new car. It's just not needed and, like I said, it's just out and out greed.

And don't me started about ITV News and its new mobile text service. News is news, it shouldn't have tacky, Amercian hype.

ITV's lust for competitions is the only thing that is now holding back it chances of turning the channel around.
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Stuart
But the sort of "competition" they have on This Morning isn't viewer participation, there isn't even an element of skill unless they think their viewers are genuinely challenged by:

Do Human Beings breathe?
Arrow A - Concrete
Arrow B - Air
Arrow C - Water


Voting on shows such as "I'm a Non-entity..." should be restricted to the cost of the call only (ie 10p) as the BBC do. This "element for charidee" is a meaningless smokescreen to hide their continued greed after being caught out.
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Andrew Founding member
StuartPlymouth posted:


Voting on shows such as "I'm a Non-entity..." should be restricted to the cost of the call only (ie 10p) as the BBC do. This "element for charidee" is a meaningless smokescreen to hide their continued greed after being caught out.

Yes and maybe Tesco should sell all the stock at cost price to stop them being so greedy Laughing

TV Companies are perfectly entitled to make a profit from phone lines. All other premium rate phone lines seen anywhere other than TV do
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Stuart
Andrew posted:
TV Companies are perfectly entitled to make a profit from phone lines. All other premium rate phone lines seen anywhere other than TV do

Yes, and all other premium rate services have to advertise across various media to promote themselves. They also claim to be selling something - even if it is a sordid chat with a fat middle-aged woman in Bolton for £1.50/min.

ITV slap their money-making scam in as an integral part of the programme. If they are making a profit from it then they should be forced to do it during the commercial breaks.
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noggin Founding member
Brekkie Boy posted:

Apart from Soapstar Superstar and Blue Peter though there has been no evidence to suggest any voting is rigged.


Wasn't there a problem with the premium rate phone votes cast by the Press Red voting application during one of the X Factor series as well?

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