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Minor day to day running of stuff (June 2007)

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cwathen Founding member
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Therefore the US programme makers only make one set of credits (the international ones). Thus US programme makers dont have to worry about making ECP safe credits like those who make shows for itv, they just make it the way they want and the US network decides what to do with it.

That to my mind is the only way that ECPs should be done. The way UK ECPs are done, with the ECP being generated 'live' and the credits having to be formatted in a way to allow for ECP squeezing I don't see as a very good approach - it often looks a bit disjointed, often fails to fit the screen properly, and the credits always look either good with the ECP, or good without, never good with both.

And because so many separate production companies are involved in the generation of our TV now, changing the design is a complex process which takes ages to role out properly (hence why it took 2 years for ITV's original generic credits to be fully implemented, and why the 2002 backdrops were still rattling around long after the rest of that presentation set had been withdrawn).

On the bit of the ECP that we never mention on here (the promotion itself), there are also problems because the promotion has to be designed to fit the runtime of the credits - shorter and longer promotions on a per junction basis can't happen.

IMO, it would be much better if production companies made a programme with whatever credits in whatever style and whatever duration they want, and if the broadcaster doesn't want to air them, then it should fall on them to generate the ECP as a single package containing both the promotion and the credits.

This would allow things to be produced much more coherantly, to run to different lengths at short notice, and for a new design to be uniformly implemented at once without the need for complex credit design rules and timeframes to implement them.
TV
TV Times
The worst chav culprit is announcing tonight (Sunday) - I just wanna throw a brick at the TV when I hear her.

Bring back Paul Seed and Graham Rogers!
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
Young Graham's doing 9am to 12noon, Saturdays and Sundays, on BBC Radios Wiltshire and Swindon now.
TV
tvarksouthwest
TV Times posted:
The worst chav culprit is announcing tonight (Sunday) - I just wanna throw a brick at the TV when I hear her.

Bring back Paul Seed and Graham Rogers!

What I've been saying since January 2006.

Why were they dumped?
TV
TV Times
Probably cause they didn't fit the remit - the lets go younger style.

Interesting you hardly hear any male voices though now on evening shifts just the women - they all lack that sparkle however - just plain dull!
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
Bring back Edna Wellthorpe (Mrs)!
TV
tvarksouthwest
TV Times posted:
Probably cause they didn't fit the remit - the lets go younger style.

Interesting you hardly hear any male voices though now on evening shifts just the women - they all lack that sparkle however - just plain dull!

When have the BBC ever ditched any CAs as the result of a channel rebrand?

If ITV are serious about attracting more ABC1s this should be reflected in the variety of voices introducing its programmes.
RS
Roy Slaven
Don't think its so much about ABC1 s as 16 - 34 s ....although I've never understood why people think that if you are in that age group you must have a yoof chav accent .... Confused I've never found the estuary whine particularly attractive.
TV
tvarksouthwest
Graham Rogers was hardly that. Funny how they ditched him but one of the current freelancers has a more mature voice and is probably similar in age.
RS
Roy Slaven
yes, Graham was far too polished and professional - Paul Seed too - probably why they were let go.
The current ones ? probably a case of who you know ....
I hear there has been a regime change there and none of the announcers are on staff any more.
TV
tvarksouthwest
Not even Paul Jamieson?

It is true that none of the original 2002 team are left, even Sonia Clark has moved on (or been given the push).
RS
Roy Slaven
You're right - I forgot about the other Paul -always liked his scottish tones but I hardly ever hear him on evenings anymore ...another one who's been sidelined?

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