Very true. Filling the schedules with the likes of "I'm A Hasbeen..." is stupid, yet very ITV.
How's it stupid? I presume you mean I'm a Celebrity.. which still pulls in the viewers and is probably one of ITV's highest rated shows alongside The X Factor and Corrie.
at the end of the day what's the death toll, it's just a missed goal, ok an important part of an important match for footie fans but the outrage and complaints are a bit OTT, it's hardly the winning goat of the world cup
at the end of the day what's the death toll, it's just a missed goal, ok an important part of an important match for footie fans but the outrage and complaints are a bit OTT, it's hardly the winning goat of the world cup
The problem is that the BBC showed it for decades & with the exception of a few technical hitches never had this sort of problem.
The point is that ITV knew they were going to show the football so in that instance should have turned off the automated system until it was safe to turn it back on.
at the end of the day what's the death toll, it's just a missed goal, ok an important part of an important match for footie fans but the outrage and complaints are a bit OTT, it's hardly the winning goat of the world cup
The problem is that the BBC showed it for decades & with the exception of a few technical hitches never had this sort of problem.
Didn't they have a huge power cut which meant they missed a large chunk of a big game once?
These things happen -it's coming to something when ITV accidently dipping out of live football for an innocent ad seems to be more of a scandal here than a porn channel cropping up in the middle of the Superbowl over in the US - that seems to have been pretty much laughed off, which considering the OTT reaction to Janet Jacksons "wardrobe malfunction" a few years back is amazing.
at the end of the day what's the death toll, it's just a missed goal, ok an important part of an important match for footie fans but the outrage and complaints are a bit OTT, it's hardly the winning goat of the world cup
The problem is that the BBC showed it for decades & with the exception of a few technical hitches never had this sort of problem.
Didn't they have a huge power cut which meant they missed a large chunk of a big game once?
The power cut was local to the stadium in Austria and affected broadcasts to the whole of Europe. Radio Five Live commentary was used until pictures could be restored. That was completely out of the BBC's hands, unlike this.
The point of having an automated system is that it is automated. There's no way of turning it off... all you can do is build things into the automation that stop it moving on until you tell it otherwise. And if you happen to have a "rule" in the automation system that says a certain item will happen at a certain time (known to some in the industry as a fixed point) then that will happen regardless, unless you take it out. There's no easy way to not have an automation system.
The point of having an automated system is that it is automated. There's no way of turning it off... all you can do is build things into the automation that stop it moving on until you tell it otherwise. And if you happen to have a "rule" in the automation system that says a certain item will happen at a certain time (known to some in the industry as a fixed point) then that will happen regardless, unless you take it out. There's no easy way to not have an automation system.
All TV stations have automation putting them out, but the big channels will have more human intervention. They are automatic but events are put into manual or the whole thing is put into Hold start as a matter of course. BBC, ITV etc are more semi-automatic
Therefore it is very easy and a regular part of the workflow to be able to stop it from moving on to the next item in its schedule.
Playout systems can have 'fixed points' (such as opt ins or news programmes that must start at a certain time) but they can also have manual points. Live programmes might start on a fixed point but advert breaks and end of programmes will usually be manual points as it isn't known when they'll be run. An advert break during a football match wouldn't be a fixed point
The problem comes when the transmission controller accidently takes it out of hold or runs the next item early - maybe they somehow pressed the take button by accident.
Automation isn't the problem it's the human operating it!
it's not the actual event but calls of 'it should never happen again' that bug me
the Herrald of Free enterprise sinking or the Dunblane shootings are things that 'should never happen again'. not some accidental comercial break at a crucial moment in a footie match
Automation has been part of television transmission set-ups for many years, although not to the extent nowadays where some channels are fully automated with little or no manual back-up if the system crashes. Many years ago, it was either the very late 70s or early 80s, when ITV network programmes were played out from the various programme contractors, a quiz show, I think from ATV, was just reaching its climax when it cut to colour bars from Thames. In those days the Post Office circuits between the various ITV companies were switched on a timer system. A live programme prior to the quiz had over-run and the system hadn't been adjusted to compensate.
Another time, in the early days of regional programming on BBC 2, Scotland got a whole 30 minutes of its own programme in vision, complete with sound from a totally different programme.
Back to ITV and I remember when an episode of "Two's Company" with Elaine Stritch and Donald Sinden was faded to black after about two minutes and replaced with Looney Tunes cartoons when it was discovered it hadn't been edited. IIRC there was a fluffed line but the actors continued for about another 30 seconds before Mr Sinden said "I think we'd better take it from the top again"....fade to black level.
What a big deal that has brewed up about ITV's soccer match. It is only a goal not a huge disaster. I was watching it because I was waiting for News At Ten to start and noticed it happened. It is unfortunate for it to happen but it has.
I have seen other live events on the BBC and Sky in previous years. Examples: I watched Sky Television's first live international cricket in 1990. It went off air for ten minutes with no explaination and you missed several wickets 'scored'.
I have seen ladies football on the BBC. That was taken off air. I cannot put a year to it or who was playing but it has happened in the last 20 years. And you missed a goal being scored.
So, a live goal was missed [in some regions]. It was replayed many times. Its anchorman Steve Rider apologised. So did Michael Grade who said it was a human error. Let it go, everyone. It cannot be perfection every time. The point being ITV are not the only culprits to do this.
