RE
Boxing fans aren't happy with the news about ITV Box Office on Twitter - they consider the IBO belt to be a joke and not worth paying for the service.
I wonder if this has been the most negative reaction to a new ITV channel since the launch of ITV2, seeing that some launches did cause tension amongst viewers and executives. What was the reaction for each ITV multichannel launch (ITV2/3/4/Be/Encore/CITV/Play/News Channel)?
I wonder if this has been the most negative reaction to a new ITV channel since the launch of ITV2, seeing that some launches did cause tension amongst viewers and executives. What was the reaction for each ITV multichannel launch (ITV2/3/4/Be/Encore/CITV/Play/News Channel)?
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RD
ITV3 caused quite a bit of negativity in that it caused the closure of Granada Plus just hours before transmission started.
ITV4 nearly caused tension in nearly closing down Men & Motors but it managed to somehow live on for another four years.
And we all know of the tension caused that brought ITV Play crashing to the ground.
ITV4 nearly caused tension in nearly closing down Men & Motors but it managed to somehow live on for another four years.
And we all know of the tension caused that brought ITV Play crashing to the ground.
BR
Sports fans are never happy when ITV win the rights to anything, even though I think the reputation they do have is a tad unfair IMO.
According to reports in the wake of Joshua's victory at the weekend the record pay per view audience is 1.2m, with that expected to be broken for his fight with Klitschko next year, getting £25m in UK PPV revenue along (1.5m subscribers at £16.95 each). I assume the ITV fight would be priced lower with much lower expectations too (half the price and half the viewership would still be optimistic) but it's the only way ITV can afford to do it. I guess to the fights would likely eventually turn up on ITV4, though a few weeks down the line.
According to reports in the wake of Joshua's victory at the weekend the record pay per view audience is 1.2m, with that expected to be broken for his fight with Klitschko next year, getting £25m in UK PPV revenue along (1.5m subscribers at £16.95 each). I assume the ITV fight would be priced lower with much lower expectations too (half the price and half the viewership would still be optimistic) but it's the only way ITV can afford to do it. I guess to the fights would likely eventually turn up on ITV4, though a few weeks down the line.
RE
CITV can be credited for causing the closure of the ITV News Channel - ITV3 and ITV4 especially exacerbated it thanks to scarce Freeview capacity on Mux 2.
Men and Motors only managed to amazingly last longer as it was breaking even on profits and its repositioning as an ITV4 prototype - rather than do an ITV3 and shut it off completely.
ITV3 caused quite a bit of negativity in that it caused the closure of Granada Plus just hours before transmission started.
ITV4 nearly caused tension in nearly closing down Men & Motors but it managed to somehow live on for another four years.
And we all know of the tension caused that brought ITV Play crashing to the ground.
ITV4 nearly caused tension in nearly closing down Men & Motors but it managed to somehow live on for another four years.
And we all know of the tension caused that brought ITV Play crashing to the ground.
CITV can be credited for causing the closure of the ITV News Channel - ITV3 and ITV4 especially exacerbated it thanks to scarce Freeview capacity on Mux 2.
Men and Motors only managed to amazingly last longer as it was breaking even on profits and its repositioning as an ITV4 prototype - rather than do an ITV3 and shut it off completely.
TL
toby lerone 2016
Sports fans are never happy when ITV win the rights to anything, even though I think the reputation they do have is a tad unfair IMO.
According to reports in the wake of Joshua's victory at the weekend the record pay per view audience is 1.2m, with that expected to be broken for his fight with Klitschko next year, getting £25m in UK PPV revenue along (1.5m subscribers at £16.95 each). I assume the ITV fight would be priced lower with much lower expectations too (half the price and half the viewership would still be optimistic) but it's the only way ITV can afford to do it. I guess to the fights would likely eventually turn up on ITV4, though a few weeks down the line.
According to reports in the wake of Joshua's victory at the weekend the record pay per view audience is 1.2m, with that expected to be broken for his fight with Klitschko next year, getting £25m in UK PPV revenue along (1.5m subscribers at £16.95 each). I assume the ITV fight would be priced lower with much lower expectations too (half the price and half the viewership would still be optimistic) but it's the only way ITV can afford to do it. I guess to the fights would likely eventually turn up on ITV4, though a few weeks down the line.
It's good to see ITV getting sport rights and going back into boxing however I do think PPV boxing for Chris Eubank Jr is a bit of a stretch compared to the bigger British names like Carl Frampton, Anthony Joshua, Klitschko etc but will watch the undercard on ITV4.
On your other point I agree ITV get a hard time, yes some of their sport coverage in the past was bad such as Football & F1 but they have improved dramatically in the last few years. Their football punditry has generally been excellent especially since they got Roy Keane & Lee Dixon and Mark Pougatch has proved a good frontman although the only bad aspect at present is their commentary has actually went backwards since Jon Champion & Peter Drury left. Their 6 Nations & Rugby World Cup coverage in the last year were both excellent and not even Paloma Faith murdering World in Union could spoil it. Their coverage of French Open Tennis, Snooker, Tour de France & Darts on ITV4 is excellent, in fact in the last year I preferred their coverage of PDC Darts to Sky. Even some sports that were criticised like their coverage of F1 had been implemented by other channels like the BBC, Channel 4 & Sky with an hour build up before hand, live coverage from the track and pits and they brought in people like Martin Brundle & Ted Kravitz which have been a mainstay of coverage since.
JA
CITV can be credited for causing the closure of the ITV News Channel - ITV3 and ITV4 especially exacerbated it thanks to scarce Freeview capacity on Mux 2.
Men and Motors only managed to amazingly last longer as it was breaking even on profits and its repositioning as an ITV4 prototype - rather than do an ITV3 and shut it off completely.
ITV4 is just as guilty as CITV - didn't it originally only operate in the evenings, timesharing with the kids channel?
ITV Sport Channel has notoriety as well. It's demise along with ITV Digital nearly put some sports clubs out of business because of lost income.
ITV3 caused quite a bit of negativity in that it caused the closure of Granada Plus just hours before transmission started.
ITV4 nearly caused tension in nearly closing down Men & Motors but it managed to somehow live on for another four years.
And we all know of the tension caused that brought ITV Play crashing to the ground.
ITV4 nearly caused tension in nearly closing down Men & Motors but it managed to somehow live on for another four years.
And we all know of the tension caused that brought ITV Play crashing to the ground.
CITV can be credited for causing the closure of the ITV News Channel - ITV3 and ITV4 especially exacerbated it thanks to scarce Freeview capacity on Mux 2.
Men and Motors only managed to amazingly last longer as it was breaking even on profits and its repositioning as an ITV4 prototype - rather than do an ITV3 and shut it off completely.
ITV Sport Channel has notoriety as well. It's demise along with ITV Digital nearly put some sports clubs out of business because of lost income.
RE
CITV can be credited for causing the closure of the ITV News Channel - ITV3 and ITV4 especially exacerbated it thanks to scarce Freeview capacity on Mux 2.
Men and Motors only managed to amazingly last longer as it was breaking even on profits and its repositioning as an ITV4 prototype - rather than do an ITV3 and shut it off completely.
ITV4 is just as guilty as CITV - didn't it originally only operate in the evenings, timesharing with the kids channel?
ITV Sport Channel has notoriety as well. It's demise along with ITV Digital nearly put some sports clubs out of business because of lost income.
The whole plan for ITV4 was that it needed to run in the evenings while CITV ran in the daytime. However capacity on Mux 2 was scarce - something had to give. The former actually did also manage to cause the News Channel to crash down especially when Freeview hours were cut by half. CITV delivered the final blow. ITV3 did indirectly contribute to it when it knocked out the News Channel off Freeview in areas outside London.
There isn't much about ITVBe and Encore to be fair - not sure about ITV2 though.
ITV3 speaks for itself in that it caused the closure of Plus, all thanks to a sought after archive, EPG slot, spreading content thinly because both targeted the same audience and the philosophy of going FTA as opposed to Pay TV. And unsurprisingly no one expected such a change to occur quickly.
ITV3 caused quite a bit of negativity in that it caused the closure of Granada Plus just hours before transmission started.
ITV4 nearly caused tension in nearly closing down Men & Motors but it managed to somehow live on for another four years.
And we all know of the tension caused that brought ITV Play crashing to the ground.
ITV4 nearly caused tension in nearly closing down Men & Motors but it managed to somehow live on for another four years.
And we all know of the tension caused that brought ITV Play crashing to the ground.
CITV can be credited for causing the closure of the ITV News Channel - ITV3 and ITV4 especially exacerbated it thanks to scarce Freeview capacity on Mux 2.
Men and Motors only managed to amazingly last longer as it was breaking even on profits and its repositioning as an ITV4 prototype - rather than do an ITV3 and shut it off completely.
ITV Sport Channel has notoriety as well. It's demise along with ITV Digital nearly put some sports clubs out of business because of lost income.
The whole plan for ITV4 was that it needed to run in the evenings while CITV ran in the daytime. However capacity on Mux 2 was scarce - something had to give. The former actually did also manage to cause the News Channel to crash down especially when Freeview hours were cut by half. CITV delivered the final blow. ITV3 did indirectly contribute to it when it knocked out the News Channel off Freeview in areas outside London.
There isn't much about ITVBe and Encore to be fair - not sure about ITV2 though.
ITV3 speaks for itself in that it caused the closure of Plus, all thanks to a sought after archive, EPG slot, spreading content thinly because both targeted the same audience and the philosophy of going FTA as opposed to Pay TV. And unsurprisingly no one expected such a change to occur quickly.
ST
To be fair, I don't think ITV were in a good place at the time, and couldn't afford a loss making 'vanity project' such as a news channel. Unlike Sky & the BBC.
Ironically, they thought one profit-spinner was jumping into the gambling/competition genre. How wrong they were.
I wonder whether ITV Play ever covered its set-up costs after the wider scandal of the premium rate quiz lines and any compensation or fines they ended up paying.
ITV killed the news channel because they wanted too. The space that wasn't available for the News Channel was found just months later for ITV Play.
To be fair, I don't think ITV were in a good place at the time, and couldn't afford a loss making 'vanity project' such as a news channel. Unlike Sky & the BBC.
Ironically, they thought one profit-spinner was jumping into the gambling/competition genre. How wrong they were.
I wonder whether ITV Play ever covered its set-up costs after the wider scandal of the premium rate quiz lines and any compensation or fines they ended up paying.
RE
On Men and Motors capacity. It's removal from Freeview began the beginning of the end for the last remnant of GSB.
As for the space it would have been ideal for ITV4 to replace M&M while still retaining the News Channel, but M&M was making more bank compared to the loss making NC, and there is no way that ITV would want to repeat the furore regarding the ITV3 launch and Plus' closure.
To be fair, I don't think ITV were in a good place at the time, and couldn't afford a loss making 'vanity project' such as a news channel. Unlike Sky & the BBC.
Ironically, they thought one profit-spinner was jumping into the gambling/competition genre. How wrong they were.
I wonder whether ITV Play ever covered its set-up costs after the wider scandal of the premium rate quiz lines and any compensation or fines they ended up paying.
Not only was ITV Play a waste of decent Freeview spectrum given the limitations of the platform, but it barely ever made money according to the Guardian - just the ITV1/2 blocks. The irony.
ITV killed the news channel because they wanted too. The space that wasn't available for the News Channel was found just months later for ITV Play.
On Men and Motors capacity. It's removal from Freeview began the beginning of the end for the last remnant of GSB.
As for the space it would have been ideal for ITV4 to replace M&M while still retaining the News Channel, but M&M was making more bank compared to the loss making NC, and there is no way that ITV would want to repeat the furore regarding the ITV3 launch and Plus' closure.
ITV killed the news channel because they wanted too. The space that wasn't available for the News Channel was found just months later for ITV Play.
To be fair, I don't think ITV were in a good place at the time, and couldn't afford a loss making 'vanity project' such as a news channel. Unlike Sky & the BBC.
Ironically, they thought one profit-spinner was jumping into the gambling/competition genre. How wrong they were.
I wonder whether ITV Play ever covered its set-up costs after the wider scandal of the premium rate quiz lines and any compensation or fines they ended up paying.
Not only was ITV Play a waste of decent Freeview spectrum given the limitations of the platform, but it barely ever made money according to the Guardian - just the ITV1/2 blocks. The irony.