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Well I think that they easily have enough to fill ITV Kids. They've got loads of old stuff, full editions of SM:tv, Ministry of Mayhem Extra, etc. Also some of the Telly Tots things. I don't think they'll rebrand CiTV either - having the channel called ITV Kids allows them to show CiTV branded things and also programmes for younger children. They can easily have CiTV branding on the 'ITV Kids' channel.

ITV3 sounds interesting too. However, I think they need to get their skates on. Now that they've decided that ITV3 will be happening they should buy the one last remaining space on the Freeview Crown Castle multiplex.
Whataday10,104 posts since 13 Sep 2001
chrisb posted:
Well I think that they easily have enough to fill ITV Kids. They've got loads of old stuff, full editions of SM:tv, Ministry of Mayhem Extra, etc. Also some of the Telly Tots things.


I don't think ITV own the rights to SM:TV, do they? Oh, wait, unless Granada owns Blaze, which was suggested a while ago.
ceefax54128 posts since 24 Oct 2003
seeing as the NC has been the ITV Rugby Channel of late I wouldn't be totally amazed if that was dropped in favour of one of the new ones, especially on Freeview. I hope it isn't though...
james20012,588 posts since 4 Sep 2001
Whataday posted:
I don't think ITV own the rights to SM:TV, do they? Oh, wait, unless Granada owns Blaze, which was suggested a while ago.


Technically they probabally would have the rights. I believe Granada co-produce the show anyway. I doubt it would be that hard for them to show odl editions of SM:TV anyway, and I think that would be a good idea and there's probabally demand for it. They might have to make some edits becuase of rights (SM:TV showed Scooby-Doo a while back, but the BBC have rights to that now), as well as cutting out the CITV trailers, but most of the show should be left intact. When ITV Kids comes close to launching, I will certinally be seding them an email suggesting that they show old SM:TVs. I wonder if they'd show the CD:UKs as well, as back then the two were effectivly the same show, and it wouldn't feel right if they didn't
Neil Jones5,490 posts since 23 Dec 2001
chrisb posted:
Well I think that they easily have enough to fill ITV Kids. They've got loads of old stuff, full editions of SM:tv, Ministry of Mayhem Extra, etc. Also some of the Telly Tots things.


Just because they've got them doesn't automatically mean that they're going to show them. I mean I presume they've still got *picks random programme out the air, not shown for a bit* Starfinder, for example, or the Christmas episode of MPAA not shown in the recent four series megarun.

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I don't think they'll rebrand CiTV either - having the channel called ITV Kids allows them to show CiTV branded things and also programmes for younger children. They can easily have CiTV branding on the 'ITV Kids' channel.


Sure they can but why should they? They've already got a brand of ten (technically twenty) years standing that's short and relatively well known for those its aimed at, why complicate the matter even further by shoving "ITV Kids" over it? Having a CiTV Channel alliterates as well, more memorable. ITV Kids just sounds clumsy and so wrong.

So they'll probably say "that's it for now on CiTV but turn over to the ITV Kids Channel where you can see episode 53* of My Parents Are Aliens where Brian and Sophie shag each other senseless for three days and then try to get Josh and Lucy to copulate with each other in the school hall." Well, okay maybe not but you get the idea Smile

*only 52 eps of MPAA have been made Mr. Green
Cheese Head1,290 posts since 8 Mar 2003
Again, only skimming (god im lazy), it would mean 1 24hr channel, and various time shared channels. And, again, I stress just get rid of some of the shopping channels, news, and they good have some 12hour channels, or do what the beeb do.

BBC 1 same times as ITV 1
BBC 2 same times as ITV 2
BBC 3 same times as ITV 3
CBBC same times as ITV Kids/Citv

It would work quite well as part of the freeview lineup, also ssomething would launch from C4 and five if were lucky, but i doubt DTT has all the space.

Launching a free station on a subsrcibtion based platform wouldnt work well IMO. Because, I'm sure most of you do, ignore these channels. When we got cable, we gradually stopped watching BBC/ITV/4/5 because I'd rather be watching nickelodeon or whatever was there. They'd get viewers upon launch, because people that arn't interested want to see what the fuss is all about, but ratings would slip therefore freeview would be the best place to put them.
fanoftv8,149 posts since 4 Jan 2003
chrisb posted:
I don't think they'll rebrand CiTV either - having the channel called ITV Kids allows them to show CiTV branded things and also programmes for younger children. They can easily have CiTV branding on the 'ITV Kids' channel.


Now having CiTV on itv kids would just be plain confusing. I could imagine them giving the section a name if it went out on both, as nick l8r and studio disney, but to have CiTV and itv kids would confuse everyone.

At the moment it is called CiTV and shows CiTV branded programmes, and programmes for younger children.

And you even put children, not younger kids, as thats what CiTV is, and this is Britain, why sould all of our channels be americanised, at least not before they buy up companies!
Whataday10,104 posts since 13 Sep 2001
james2001 posted:
Technically they probabally would have the rights. I believe Granada co-produce the show anyway. I doubt it would be that hard for them to show odl editions of SM:TV anyway, and I think that would be a good idea and there's probabally demand for it.



Although with many of their shows CITV would probably have to pay a repeat fee to the performers, even if they do own the rights.
james20012,588 posts since 4 Sep 2001
Obvioulsy that's inevitable, with any programme (I remember reading David Jason gets something like 10,000 for each BBC Only Fools repeat). I would like to see old SM:TVs repeated, and I'm sure there's many others whow ould as well.
iloveyorkshire520 posts since 28 Nov 2003
i think itv3 owt to concentrate more on public service television than itv1 does allowing everyone to see regional programme perhaps have phone-ins and discussion programme and perhaps at seven something to rival channel 4 news with a programme looking at the last 24 hours news.
You never know it just might work.
This Is Granada1,690 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Just been catching up on ITV's new channels and reading this new stuff:

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ITV is expected to reach a deal with Sky over the future of its joint venture Granada Sky Broadcasting before Christmas.

As previously reported, ITV is in talks with the broadcaster about ditching their Granada Plus station in favour of a new channel called ITV3, previously ITV Gold.

Granada Plus has existing programming contracts with ITV which would be required for the new station, only possible if Sky gives co-operation. As a result Sky is expected to have a stake in the new channel, due for launch in the first half of next year.

As well as ITV3, Sky may also be involved in ITV's other new channel, ITV Kids, planned for next Autumn.

It is likely that any deal would also see ITV2 take the place of Granada Plus in the Sky EPG, a more prominent position than it currently holds


It says that ITV3 will likely be GPlus. I thought GPlus was going to be ITV Gold, with ITV3 being another new channel, but looks like Gold is now (or maybe) called 3 instead.

It also mentions about ITV2 moving to GPlus slot on the EPG (118), which is good. Gplus (Or itv3 as it may be known) will have room on 119 or 120 as these gaps are free as with most Sky channels, they get 2 more EPG numbers left available. Actually, ITV3 may go on 120, as 119 could be saved for ITV1+1 or ITV2+1, as they were talk about +1 channels.
rdd3,397 posts since 21 Jun 2001
Confusing... Irish viewers will have ITV3, but no ITV1 (UTV branding instead) or ITV2 (for some reason, we're not allowed have it in the Republic...)