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ITV Night Time news: recorded or live?

(May 2017)

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A former member
Over on the youtube gold thread: A clip of a newsflash from ITV at 1.30am has appear about Diana.

https://tvforum.uk/forums/post1058445#post-1058445 The page before has the listings for most bar STV for that night.

Inspector Sands thinks the overnight was recorded, while myself am sure there were all done live And we have talked about this before and it was made clear ITN never recorded anything.

Can anyone remember the thread which talked about overnight news? or can anyone remember any details about the overnight news?
RD
RDJ
I think they were recorded. This Youtube video proves it. Watch 1:43 & 4:58.

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A former member
I was lead to believe only certain itv companies recorded the news and it was poo pood on. But most to Granada or London feeds were live?
IS
Inspector Sands
At one point it was apparently against the rules to record the news but I'd have thought that changed for overnights, they were simple summaries after all.

As I said in the other thread there were multiple different schedules across the regions with few common junctions. I'm fairly certain that ITN didn't sit there all night doing identical live bulletins into each slot which could be at 1:03am, 1:11am, then 1:17am etc.

I'd have thought they'd either do one bulletin an hour and all the stations recorded it, or they did the first one in the hour live and the others recorded across it
SW
Steve Williams
As I said in the other thread there were multiple different schedules across the regions with few common junctions. I'm fairly certain that ITN didn't sit there all night doing identical live bulletins into each slot which could be at 1:03am, 1:11am, then 1:17am etc.


Were there that many different schedules, though? Certainly by the mid-nineties there were only four - the Carlton/LWT-produced one taken by most regions, the United stations' one, and the YTV and STV services. So it wouldn't perhaps have been that much of a faff, it wasn't like every single region was doing its own thing.
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Markymark
As I said in the other thread there were multiple different schedules across the regions with few common junctions. I'm fairly certain that ITN didn't sit there all night doing identical live bulletins into each slot which could be at 1:03am, 1:11am, then 1:17am etc.


Were there that many different schedules, though? Certainly by the mid-nineties there were only four - the Carlton/LWT-produced one taken by most regions, the United stations' one, and the YTV and STV services. So it wouldn't perhaps have been that much of a faff, it wasn't like every single region was doing its own thing.


In fact ITN might have been glad of it, kept everyone nicely busy overnight !
AN
Andrew Founding member
If they were recorded a couple of times a night and then slotted in by the different regions, that would explain why they always ended with the non specific "That's it, I'll have more news later"

Although they still did that when ITV overnight was one service (although STV would still have been different)
NM
NeilMiles
The bulletins in this video (at 2:16 & 19:52) appear to be live (or as-live) judging by the newsreader stumbling over the details of the Bruno / Tyson fight

IS
Inspector Sands
My hunch is they were either live for one region and recorded for the rest, or done aslive and recorded by all. I don't think they'd have gone for a retake for such a minor slip up

It's the vague references to time that's the giveaway - they're very oddly written, no other news bulletin says 'we'll be back later'
SW
Steve Williams
I dunno though, as mentioned there were issues with pre-recording news bulletins, and surely in those days there was the potential for cock-ups and playing the wrong one and so on. I'm assuming they didn't mention the time because they were at really unmemorable times and they presumably didn't think anyone would stick around for any great length of time.
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Andrew Founding member
You might be right "That's it, I'll be back with more news at twelve minutes to three"

Recording bulletins and playing them in properly on a skeleton staff in the middle of the night in all kinds of regions might have been a bit tricky, but then again ITN doing the same bulletins over and over again seems a bit much.

Is Owen Thomas, Sharon Gray or Dennis Tuohy a member around here?!
SW
Steve Williams
Recording bulletins and playing them in properly on a skeleton staff in the middle of the night in all kinds of regions might have been a bit tricky, but then again ITN doing the same bulletins over and over again seems a bit much.


Well, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that most regions tried to synchronise their schedules so they had a fairly consistent time across the network for the news, I suppose.

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