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(May 2008)

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TE
tellywatcher
Spencer For Hire posted:
tellywatcher posted:
Just branded as ITV Regional News and 'ITV News' in the titles.

Here's the start and the end of the bulletin.


Did he really say 'Toodaloo' at the end? Shocked

[or however it's spelt!]

Indeed so, he always ends his bulletins like that! Surprised
SP
Spencer
tellywatcher posted:
Indeed so, he always ends his bulletins like that! Surprised


And there was me thinking people had stopped saying that in the 70s.
RM
Roger Mellie
Spencer For Hire posted:
tellywatcher posted:
Indeed so, he always ends his bulletins like that! Surprised


And there was me thinking people had stopped saying that in the 70s.


Somebody ought to tell Mark Gough that... unless Scousers still say that Confused You can't beat Emma Jesson's "bye bye" Wink

I think it's strange that they kept the Birmingham skyline backdrop though, for a generic bulletin.
BU
buster
Roger Mellie posted:
Spencer For Hire posted:
tellywatcher posted:
Indeed so, he always ends his bulletins like that! Surprised


And there was me thinking people had stopped saying that in the 70s.


Somebody ought to tell Mark Gough that... unless Scousers still say that Confused You can't beat Emma Jesson's "bye bye" Wink

I think it's strange that they kept the Birmingham skyline backdrop though, for a generic bulletin.


Yeah, presume they didn't have access to the greeny blue backdrop some of the regions (Calendar?) use sometimes, presumably to distract from the fact they're pan-regional!
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Inspector Sands posted:
Besides I'm sure that missing a 3 mnute bulletin which contains very little news on a good day isn't going to worry any regulator.


Especially as they've probably also lost a chunk of advertising money, if various regions weren't able to carry the booked ads
TE
tellywatcher
buster posted:
Yeah, presume they didn't have access to the greeny blue backdrop some of the regions (Calendar?) use sometimes, presumably to distract from the fact they're pan-regional!

They use it every weekend for the East/West simulcast.

The fact they didn't change it for a bulletin seen across most of the country, is quite odd!
ST
Stuart
tellywatcher posted:
They use it every weekend for the East/West simulcast.
The fact they didn't change it for a bulletin seen across most of the country, is quite odd!

I imagine they had alot on their plate trying to get the bulletin together and broadcast. The shot used of the presenter meant that the unitiated wouldn't really know which city the skyline belonged to anyway. I imagine many with have just assumed it was London.
:-(
A former member
Inspector Sands posted:
jason posted:
I hope ITV are being suitably penalised for this dereliction of duty in relation to their contract with Ofcom.

After all, they chose to centralise. They should therefore take the rough with the smooth.

For half the UK to lose a PSB service like this isn't really acceptable.


These things happen though, whatever it is had to be fixed sometime at least they prepared something for it.

Besides I'm sure that missing a 3 mnute bulletin which contains very little news on a good day isn't going to worry any regulator.

Centralisation isn't the issue, it works fine 99.9% of the time


It wasn't one 3-minute bulletin though was it. More like about seven or eight.

If one single franchise missed eight bulletins they'd be kicked for it. This is no different.
JO
Joe
jason posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
jason posted:
I hope ITV are being suitably penalised for this dereliction of duty in relation to their contract with Ofcom.

After all, they chose to centralise. They should therefore take the rough with the smooth.

For half the UK to lose a PSB service like this isn't really acceptable.

These things happen though, whatever it is had to be fixed sometime at least they prepared something for it.

Besides I'm sure that missing a 3 mnute bulletin which contains very little news on a good day isn't going to worry any regulator.

Centralisation isn't the issue, it works fine 99.9% of the time

It wasn't one 3-minute bulletin though was it. More like about seven or eight.

If one single franchise missed eight bulletins they'd be kicked for it. This is no different.

I don't understand what you wanted them to do. It was a maintenance problem which stopped the bulletins going ahead - they saw this coming and provided probably the best solution. I'm not normally so pro-ITV (not becuase I'm biased but because I normally disagree with a lot of their actions) but I don't believe they were at fault here.
OV
Orry Verducci
Jugalug posted:
I don't understand what you wanted them to do. It was a maintenance problem which stopped the bulletins going ahead - they saw this coming and provided probably the best solution. I'm not normally so pro-ITV (not becuase I'm biased but because I normally disagree with a lot of their actions) but I don't believe they were at fault here.

I'm with Jugalug for this one, they broadcast a bulletin which covered regional news stories from all over Southern England, and at least it was more regional than a national service. A regional service was sustained to an extent, and all other output went out as normal, you can't ask much more from them.

At the end of the day, engineering work needed to be carried out, and managed to do so with the only disruption being one small news bulletin covering a larger area than normal (and I think a lack of regional news during GMTV). Following the recent power failures at Southern Tranmission, I think it's safe to assume the work was vital, otherwise we could be looking a more technical problems later which will cause a lot more disruption than just 1 news bulletin (as we have seen).
IS
Inspector Sands
jason posted:

It wasn't one 3-minute bulletin though was it. More like about seven or eight.

If one single franchise missed eight bulletins they'd be kicked for it. This is no different.


It was 1 x 3 minute regional news slot. Hardly a big loss in the scheme of things

Things happen, both news programmes I've worked on have missed bulletins at times due to technical problems. It's not ideal but it will happen
SP
Steve in Pudsey
I think the issue is that as recently as 5 years ago, a failure in one building wouldn't have prevented so many regions from opting out.

Given that it was planned maintenance, there could have been a better alternative put into place, such as getting Arquiva or BT Tower to switch the incoming circuits from the regions into the distribution circuits for the relevant region.

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