I have an internal Tyne Tees routine sheet from 1987, which clearly marks the production stations and playout stations
I doubt I'm the only one who would love to see a scan of that, if at all possible
Sorry Steve, I don't have the facility to scan it at present, but I'll see what I can do!
jason posted:
Was it a standard practice to even use Presentation slides? I have to say I can never remember seeing them before around 1993 on imported programmes in the North East. TT would resort to a "THE END" slide before they'd use a presentation slide.....
(In fact I'm not even sure TT *had* a proper presentation slide. In 93, for a while when they started using one they were using "A TT Presentation
for IT= // (c) MCMXCIII
"! A badly-edited proper one appeared a few weeks later...).
Tyne Tees never used 'presentation' slides until the late-1992 revamp, when the new 'TTTV' logo and ident came into play.
james2001 posted:
I know Yorkshire had a presentation slide which they used at the end of every improted programme & film until around 1998. Not sure when they started, but I have a video from 1989. My grandmother used to have a video from the early 80s which had the very end of an ITC series on (not sure which) and ended with a "Yorkshire Television" slide (no "presntation" text, but the same idea).
YTV used the 'plain' Yorkshire Television symbol at the start and end of imported programmes from 1982 until the 1987 'Liquid Gold' era. They would show the symbol and play the fanfare at the start of these shows, and mix to the symbol at the end. From 1987 they stopped using 'frontcaps' before purchased programmes, and mixed straight into the VT feed from the chevron ident.
Yes YTV as I can remember used to always put the presentation slides after imported programmes, Tyne Tees never had one before 1993, but they didn't have a network one either IIRC.
The programmes that used to be shown were as I remember in the lunchtime afternoons, Rod Jane and Freddy, Allsorts, The Riddlers, Rainbow, Playbox, Rosie and Jim, and on Tyne Tees they used to show the CITV slide before the programme, I don't think Yorkshire did though.
Thanks Si-Co for the information, right so the originating company would broadcast the feed, so to get it networked it went through the GPO? and does the GPO still exist today, presumably the whole infrastructure is still intact?
GPO - General Post Office - now BT
In those days the GPO; more specifically Post Office Telecommunications had the monopoly on telecommunications so ITV and the BBC distribution was done by them.
The various TV stations and studios are all linked by BT circuits, they are used by ITV for some things, but I suspect the networking circuits will be dedicated and permanant lines
Thanks, I've learned from this thread, thanks to all the contributers in this thread.
So it lasted eight years. Why do I not remember any of it? Was it really that bad?
This'll probably drag the thread WAY off topic now:
Everybody remembers Rainbow, which works on quite a few levels depending on how old you are. Such as the backwards Bungle (naked all day and wearing pyjamas to bed), the one-armed Zippy and George, who I still believe is actually a transexual.
So it lasted eight years. Why do I not remember any of it? Was it really that bad?
This'll probably drag the thread WAY off topic now:
Everybody remembers Rainbow, which works on quite a few levels depending on how old you are. Such as the backwards Bungle (naked all day and wearing pyjamas to bed), the one-armed Zippy and George, who I still believe is actually a transexual.
I am pretty sure the show went on till 1990, I think my memory is fading a bit now.
Can't see this written elsewhere, but there was a schedule produced well in advance, whereby each ad break and programme time was scheduled to the second for the network. The 'network' was controlled by Thames/Carlton in London who would make all the network decisions regarding extra time to news, live programmes etc... there was a 'red phone' which linked all the stations. This would then chirp into life when London wanted to make a decision or change and you'd hear them call the name of every station to check they were listening. I remember a time when the network were coming to a programme which was originating from Meridian which didn't run and all you could hear come across the speaker was "RUN MERIDIAN, FOR GOD SAKES RUN"...
If there were overruns, when it came to 24 hour broadcasting, these were soaked up, as now, in the nightscreen time. The accurate times also meant that overnight the remote stations could be activated by Line 21 pulsing to run their ad breaks,w hich meant you always saw your local ads, or a holding slide if they couldn't sell the airtime as happened occasionally. It was all pretty clever stuff. HTV for a long while also ran C4's ad breaks in the west from their LMS before Westcountry moved in. S4C's if I remember rightly used to come from a little VT machine in Culverhouse. When it camed to their franchise, West was always the master and Wales the slave. So sad to see the demise of HTV, they had a cracking set up in Cardiff and it seemed to work so well.
With Home and Away and A Country Practice im sure if was Thames/Carlton who was responsible for these series. Thames were the furthest ahead with ACP but Central the furthest behind. I think Carlton were the ones who used to edit Home and Away. Also the end credits of both ACP and H&A were edited down to almost nothing when Carlton took over from Thames.
I remember that Carlton were actually still showing the full closing sequence to H&A in late 1994, when other regions were only showing the edited-down versions by this point. I guess there were different edits around, and Carlton's obviously wasn't the same version shown in other regions. Maybe another region edited the 'Carlton' version and this version went out on most of the network?
With Home and Away and A Country Practice im sure if was Thames/Carlton who was responsible for these series. Thames were the furthest ahead with ACP but Central the furthest behind. I think Carlton were the ones who used to edit Home and Away. Also the end credits of both ACP and H&A were edited down to almost nothing when Carlton took over from Thames.
I remember that Carlton were actually still showing the full closing sequence to H&A in late 1994, when other regions were only showing the edited-down versions by this point. I guess there were different edits around, and Carlton's obviously wasn't the same version shown in other regions. Maybe another region edited the 'Carlton' version and this version went out on most of the network?
Thats interesting. I always assumed all regions showed the same version of Home and Away as unlike most imported series that ITV have shown the same episode went out on the same day nationwide (just at different times depending on when a particular region had their regional news). I do remember with ACP the full credits were shown occasionally during 1997/8 but that might have been due to the nature of some the storylines they had to cut scenes and kept the long credits in to make up the time.
