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A former member
I still think it will be going at 10.40.

I really think if there was any truth to News at Ten being bumped for it we'd have heard alot more from it, especially from within ITN.


If it's a 30 minute show, then to me 10.40pm sounds right. Bearing in mind as well if it's after NaT, then STV will most likely have to show it after Scotland Tonight. Or they could not show it altogether which they have been known to do in the past.


I think STV will broadcast it but at 11.10, of course Border Scotland might just move it aswell just to keep things simple aswell.
BR
Brekkie
If against everyone better judgement it did end up at 10pm then that would open the door for STV to try their own STV News at Ten.
PC
p_c_u_k
As things stand, STV still needs to take every ITN bulletin live. There have obviously been exceptions made to that, but to routinely broadcast their own bulletin instead I presume this would involve discussions with Ofcom, and probably result in some political intervention as well (the SNP would be delighted, the parties who wish to keep Scotland in the UK less so). It's where I wonder if the combined national and international bulletin on STV2 (soon to be the new name for the local channels) will be an on-air pilot of sorts to see how it works, or just a spoiler for any BBC Scottish Six.

Beyond anything else though, if STV was considering this I suspect they'd be more likely to create a news hour from 6pm. There's more domestic news during the day, whereas night-time bulletins tend to be less dominated by the unavoidable England and Wales only stories that lead to calls for this sort of bulletin in the first place.

In terms of where they would broadcast any new nightly chat show - if it's on at 10pm, pushing the News at Ten to 10.30pm, I suspect Scotland Tonight would just move along to 11pm. That's when Newsnight Scotland used to be on, and it's within the bounds of not being too late to be utterly pointless. If it's at 10.40pm then that makes life a bit more difficult. Scotland Tonight works by integrating the local news within Scotland Tonight itself. The 10 minute delay before getting to the next point in the schedule might tempt STV to shunt The Nightly Show back in the schedule.
GO
gottago
The Nightly Show has been confirmed for 10pm at the Broadcast Commissioning Forum.
Last edited by gottago on 17 November 2016 1:23pm
BR
Brekkie
Well in that case ITV are killing it before it even begins, putting it up against the much higher rated BBC News and giving it a high profile slot by pushing out News at Ten. This will end up boosting the BBC more than ITV, harming an already struggling (ratings wise) News at Ten for short-sighted motives and more than anything just putting too much pressure on this show.

At 10.40pm it would be allowed to find it's own identity and it's own audience and just grow organically, plus IMO it is more likely to mop up viewers from the BBC as they pretty much switch off after the news now in the early part of the week at least.

A real wasted opportunity IMO by putting it at 10pm - I've long felt something like this had a chance in a post-news slot but this strategy just dooms it to failure IMO, and I wouldn't be surprised to actually see it bumped out of the 10pm slot to 10.40pm within a couple of weeks due to not bringing in the audience they were after.
AN
all new Phil
Well in that case ITV are killing it before it even begins, putting it up against the much higher rated BBC News and giving it a high profile slot by pushing out News at Ten. This will end up boosting the BBC more than ITV, harming an already struggling (ratings wise) News at Ten for short-sighted motives and more than anything just putting too much pressure on this show.

At 10.40pm it would be allowed to find it's own identity and it's own audience and just grow organically, plus IMO it is more likely to mop up viewers from the BBC as they pretty much switch off after the news now in the early part of the week at least.

A real wasted opportunity IMO by putting it at 10pm - I've long felt something like this had a chance in a post-news slot but this strategy just dooms it to failure IMO, and I wouldn't be surprised to actually see it bumped out of the 10pm slot to 10.40pm within a couple of weeks due to not bringing in the audience they were after.

It's up against BBC News. It's not like they're scheduling it against the Bake Off final. 10pm tends to be quite a dry time if you want to watch something that isn't news - I completely get their thinking in trying it out.
DV
dvboy
According to The Guardian today, Joe Lycett is host of the pilot
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/nov/19/birmingham-pub-crawl-with-comedian-joe-lycett
NT
NewbieTvFan
10 non broadcast pilots? So they're going to film 10 episodes and not show them? Confused
HC
Hatton Cross
Don't be. Standard broadcasting way of doing things. Non-broadcast pilots allow the production team/presenters to produce 10 shows away from the glare of the viewers/social media (although I guess the audiences will be asked to tweet/like @itvnightlyshow (or whatever they have used) just to see the reaction.

So, when the show finally goes to air - and with 10 non-broadcast pilots, a short first run will be a dead cert - the team and crew have had 10 shows to practice, know which features fly, which have bombed, so on show 1 - in theory - there should be less jitters, as they've already done the show 10 times already.

Of course, the danger is some ideas/set-pieces dropped in around the chat show part, work very well in the test run, but fall quickly apart or the viewers hate them once on air.
BR
Brekkie
The schedules for January will have to be locked in fairly early so can't see it launching in the New Year if these pilots are only being done now. Joe Lycett though is way more ITV2 than ITV and certainly not a big enough name to carry a nightly 10pm show on ITV itself, and isn't going to be a big enough name to pull in big name guests too.
CH
chris
I thought the show was going to have guest hosts? Just because he's doing the pilots doesn't mean he'll be a full-time presenter.
IS
Inspector Sands
The schedules for January will have to be locked in fairly early so can't see it launching in the New Year if these pilots are only being done now.

I don't quite get the logic. It can still be scheduled despite it being piloted.

There's 5ish weeks to Christmas. Plenty of time for a couple of pilots a week and a couple in the new year before the first episode.

What they don't want to do is get it together and get a head of steam with the writing and production, and then wait weeks for it to be scheduled

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