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RDJ2,341 posts since 25 Oct 2003
Central (South) Midlands Today
If they did decide to bring it back, they'd have to completely reinvent it, stick with one main host and be 100% confident in a 5-nightly show running at 10.45 every night.

Is there an audience to be found at that timeslot? Probably not a very large one. It's probably not worth bothering with.

I guess ITV have learnt their lesson to pilot shows more intensively before committing 5 weeks of transmission in a major slot in the schedules.
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Brekkie28,799 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
If anyone’s been following the Edinburgh TV Festival, ITV’s Director of Television has talked about the Nightly Show.

He concluded that it never worked at a 10pm slot - and the fact that it struggled to find its feet with the idea of revolving hosts each week.

Sums it up really. Seeing that ITV has quickly seen what went wrong with the Nightly Show (with all of the points raised in this thread), they could continue with it, but at a later timeslot and with a permanent host.

Incidentally that was also hinted at, partly by Lygo.

Told you so Mr Lygo. Ironically it probably secured News at Ten's position in the schedule.
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DJGM2,623 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Granada North West Today

I guess ITV have learnt their lesson to pilot shows more intensively before
committing 5 weeks of transmission in a major slot in the schedules.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely The Nightly Show "experiment" ran for 8 weeks, not 5.
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Ben Shatliff961 posts since 30 Aug 2003
Granada North West Today
Lygo also said that they'd be experimenting with the 10pm slot again early next year.


What. How can they admit they were wrong in one sentence and then not learn their lesson with the next?

The Public prefers a news bulletin at 10PM and it proved that even more when The Nightly Show was on.

They can experiment but giving us a 1967 style News At Ten from next year with Tom and Julie presenting.
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Inspector Sands12,083 posts since 25 Aug 2004
Lygo also said that they'd be experimenting with the 10pm slot again early next year.


What. How can they admit they were wrong in one sentence and then not learn their lesson with the next?

The lesson they learnt is that the Nightly Show didn't work, not that nothing else but news will work in that slot. They're two different things.

It's definitely worth them experimenting with the 10pm slot, if you don't try you don't find out what will work

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The Public prefers a news bulletin at 10PM and it proved that even more when The Nightly Show was on.

No it didn't, it just proved that they didn't like The Nightly Show
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Larry the Loafer5,109 posts since 2 Jul 2005
Granada North West Today
I know I'm in the minority but I believe the timeslot was the least of its problems. ITV, naturally, want instant results. They wanted to emulate The Late Late Show and its viral power from Day 1. But they completely ignored the problems involved with swapping hosts every week and giving the show no time to settle.

Anybody who knows the mere basics of the history of American late night chat shows knows that they need time to settle. Famously, Conan O'Brien was placed on numerous short term contracts with NBC because they didn't think Late Night would pick up on the ratings, and at the time, Conan had barely any experience as a performer. Eventually, he got more comfortable and confident in the role. Now he's one of the most respected chat show hosts in America.

A show like The Nightly Show functions on the power of its host. Deep down it's no different to The Graham Norton Show or Alan Carr Chatty Man. But both of those shows benefit from the style and talent of its hosts; they're tailored to them. When you only give somebody a week to play with it, even IMO when it peaked with Bradley Walsh, all his work was washed by the following Monday. The show was unable to work out what it wanted to be.

A later time slot might've given the ratings a little boost, but it wouldn't have fixed the show.
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62305821,653 posts since 19 Aug 2005
STV Central Reporting Scotland
It bloody infuriating we in this forum were able to point out the fault with this series will before ITV, yet went ahead without listening...


If broadcasters listened to the views of forums of this ilk about all programmes that haven't been on telly yet, they wouldn't show anything.

You know what I mean, the series faults were all pointed out well before it started. It was pretty clear ITV mananger were like horses in the grand national...
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DJGM2,623 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Granada North West Today


Anybody who knows the mere basics of the history of American late night chat shows knows that they need time to settle. Famously, Conan O'Brien was placed on numerous short term contracts with NBC because they didn't think Late Night would pick up on the ratings, and at the time, Conan had barely any experience as a performer. Eventually, he got more comfortable and confident in the role. Now he's one of the most respected chat show hosts in America.


The reason Conan eventually found confidence being a newcomer in the 00:30 slot hosting Late Night on NBC was thanks to the man he took over the show from, that being David Letterman. In the first few months of Late Night With Conan O'Brien the show was not doing well in the ratings, TV critics hated him, he was (in Conan's own words) "a national punchline" and was getting close to the show being cancelled by NBC, until Dave offered to revisit his old show and be a guest, which helped turn things around dramatically


On Letterman's final night hosting the Late Show on CBS in May 2015, Conan used his opening monologue on his own TBS show to say thanks to Dave for saving his career in Late Night, and even told his viewers to switch over at 23:35.


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