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Yep. I only caught the beginning again last night and it's very lacklustre. Him slumped behind a desk is not a dynamic start
Once again his pace is not zappy enough, he needs to speed up a bit like when Norton or ross does it.
Yep. I only caught the beginning again last night and it's very lacklustre. Him slumped behind a desk is not a dynamic start
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Whataday
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This Ally Ross review in The Sun pretty spot on.
Quote:
Dud camel, dead cat, dull chat… it’s clearly already time ITV’s The Nightly Show called it a nightly
THE perfect week for ITV’s This Morning to launch its insomnia workshop, with Professor Jason Ellis who was full of perfectly sound advice for the wide-awake club.
Caffeine regulation, sleep hygiene, sensible eating patterns. That sort of thing.
“But if you could give just two or three tips, to somebody who’s not going to be able to sleep tonight,” host Phillip Schofield began, “What would they be?”
The. Nightly. Show.
This is a brand new five-nights-a-week sedative created by ITV network boss Kevin Lygo, who’s clearly seen James Corden’s Carpool Karaoke with Lady Gaga and thought: “I wanna a bit of that.”
And yes, there was an issue with the fact he didn’t have James Corden, Lady Gaga, or even the car, but had Lygo cleared the appropriate 12:30am slot for The Nightly Show, he might just have got away with this eyeball-rattling brain fart.
That would’ve been too simple and involved no ego trip, though.
So instead ITV’s Director of Television boldly plonked it down in the one universally admired part of the channel’s schedule and gave it the sacred News At Ten berth.
The full, contrary madness of this decision became clear — even before the first episode was broadcast — when it was revealed the show’s guests, which included Martin Clunes and The Voice judges, had been picked to try to promote ITV and cast it in as favourable a light as possible.
Still, it might just have forgiven and forgotten if the first week of The Nightly Show, hosted by David Walliams, had been any good.
Oh sweet Lord it wasn’t, though.
Not by any systems of weights and measures.
Punchlines could be heard thundering in from the next postcode, strands fell flat, interviews went nowhere, all the comedy was unintentional and a jokey audience question about how many cats it would take to kill Kim Cattrall was greeted with her deathly response: “I’ve just lost mine.”
Not a show that enjoys the best of luck then, as was confirmed on Wednesday when the by-now desperate production team took the so-called “Blue Peter gamble”.
This involved dragging a reluctant camel called Abdul into the studio with the express hope, I think, that he’d p**s all over the studio floor and create a viral.
Would Abdul oblige?
Not even if The Nightly Show was on fire.
The fact it was this bad, of course, shouldn’t really surprise anyone who’s actually watched the likes of Jimmy Kimmel regularly, rather than assumed American chat shows are brilliant on the basis of a few good clips and their own inferiority complex.
’Cos I’ve seen a lot and they’re hit-and-miss affairs.
What was a slight surprise about TNS, though, was David Walliams who was getting paid £50,000 an episode but, to borrow the description of Lieutenant Hauk’s presenting skills on Good Morning Vietnam, “sucked the sweat off a dead man’s balls”.
For here we had a chat show host incapable of feigning interest in any of his guests who, as far as he was clearly concerned, just got in the way of his own camp showing off.
Himself aside, Walliams’ greatest pleasure is clearly the misfortune of others.
So he could hardly disguise his glee at passing this telly hand grenade on to John Bishop who looked like he’d just seen a shadow on his own X-ray but was trying to make the best of things.
“Do you want to be made miserable at ten o’clock?” he asked, rather forlornly. “Or do you want a laugh?”
And if that isn’t a rallying call for the relative hilarity of Robert Peston’s budget round up, I dunno what is, frankly. (ITV News, 10:30pm).
THE perfect week for ITV’s This Morning to launch its insomnia workshop, with Professor Jason Ellis who was full of perfectly sound advice for the wide-awake club.
Caffeine regulation, sleep hygiene, sensible eating patterns. That sort of thing.
“But if you could give just two or three tips, to somebody who’s not going to be able to sleep tonight,” host Phillip Schofield began, “What would they be?”
The. Nightly. Show.
This is a brand new five-nights-a-week sedative created by ITV network boss Kevin Lygo, who’s clearly seen James Corden’s Carpool Karaoke with Lady Gaga and thought: “I wanna a bit of that.”
And yes, there was an issue with the fact he didn’t have James Corden, Lady Gaga, or even the car, but had Lygo cleared the appropriate 12:30am slot for The Nightly Show, he might just have got away with this eyeball-rattling brain fart.
That would’ve been too simple and involved no ego trip, though.
So instead ITV’s Director of Television boldly plonked it down in the one universally admired part of the channel’s schedule and gave it the sacred News At Ten berth.
The full, contrary madness of this decision became clear — even before the first episode was broadcast — when it was revealed the show’s guests, which included Martin Clunes and The Voice judges, had been picked to try to promote ITV and cast it in as favourable a light as possible.
Still, it might just have forgiven and forgotten if the first week of The Nightly Show, hosted by David Walliams, had been any good.
Oh sweet Lord it wasn’t, though.
Not by any systems of weights and measures.
Punchlines could be heard thundering in from the next postcode, strands fell flat, interviews went nowhere, all the comedy was unintentional and a jokey audience question about how many cats it would take to kill Kim Cattrall was greeted with her deathly response: “I’ve just lost mine.”
Not a show that enjoys the best of luck then, as was confirmed on Wednesday when the by-now desperate production team took the so-called “Blue Peter gamble”.
This involved dragging a reluctant camel called Abdul into the studio with the express hope, I think, that he’d p**s all over the studio floor and create a viral.
Would Abdul oblige?
Not even if The Nightly Show was on fire.
The fact it was this bad, of course, shouldn’t really surprise anyone who’s actually watched the likes of Jimmy Kimmel regularly, rather than assumed American chat shows are brilliant on the basis of a few good clips and their own inferiority complex.
’Cos I’ve seen a lot and they’re hit-and-miss affairs.
What was a slight surprise about TNS, though, was David Walliams who was getting paid £50,000 an episode but, to borrow the description of Lieutenant Hauk’s presenting skills on Good Morning Vietnam, “sucked the sweat off a dead man’s balls”.
For here we had a chat show host incapable of feigning interest in any of his guests who, as far as he was clearly concerned, just got in the way of his own camp showing off.
Himself aside, Walliams’ greatest pleasure is clearly the misfortune of others.
So he could hardly disguise his glee at passing this telly hand grenade on to John Bishop who looked like he’d just seen a shadow on his own X-ray but was trying to make the best of things.
“Do you want to be made miserable at ten o’clock?” he asked, rather forlornly. “Or do you want a laugh?”
And if that isn’t a rallying call for the relative hilarity of Robert Peston’s budget round up, I dunno what is, frankly. (ITV News, 10:30pm).
:-(
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Itv needs to find proper host not famous names, the guest list needs to be revised and rearrange to better reflect Whats getting broadcast.
What's the trouble is itv has done a half arise job without putting in proper format. Why not just copy ideas from James show? It needs to go into full than mode.
Do who know who the other six hosts are?
What's the trouble is itv has done a half arise job without putting in proper format. Why not just copy ideas from James show? It needs to go into full than mode.
Do who know who the other six hosts are?
BA
A half Arise job is a pretty damning assessment.
What's the trouble is itv has done a half arise job
A half Arise job is a pretty damning assessment.
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noggin
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I think the reality is that the US talk show formats really don't work over here. (I don't think many of us really understand why they work in the US to be honest...)
They've been tried, and tried, and tried in the UK - both rebroadcasts of the US versions and home-grown facsimiles.
Graham Norton was 'discovered' when he stood in for Jack Docherty on the early Channel 5 attempt at a nightly chat show, and shone. However when he tried to do a daily show, it didn't really work, and the element of Norton that works (as it did on Parkinson) was co-ordinating guests together. You can do that on a weekly show, but not on a nightly show.
I think Ally hit the nail on the head. Don't judge US shows by the good bits you see on YouTube...
Also - if you look at the major successes in US evening talk shows, their hosts are not, at least initially, more famous than their guests, and are there because they are usually comedians (and/or quick-witted writers) who add something by their presence to the interview, but don't deflect. However the nature of daily shows is that they are nearly universally vehicles of promotion - movies, music releases, books etc. - and making something interesting out of a promo opportunity is not easy. ITV seem to be throwing staff at the show - maybe they have too many cooks?
They've been tried, and tried, and tried in the UK - both rebroadcasts of the US versions and home-grown facsimiles.
Graham Norton was 'discovered' when he stood in for Jack Docherty on the early Channel 5 attempt at a nightly chat show, and shone. However when he tried to do a daily show, it didn't really work, and the element of Norton that works (as it did on Parkinson) was co-ordinating guests together. You can do that on a weekly show, but not on a nightly show.
I think Ally hit the nail on the head. Don't judge US shows by the good bits you see on YouTube...
Also - if you look at the major successes in US evening talk shows, their hosts are not, at least initially, more famous than their guests, and are there because they are usually comedians (and/or quick-witted writers) who add something by their presence to the interview, but don't deflect. However the nature of daily shows is that they are nearly universally vehicles of promotion - movies, music releases, books etc. - and making something interesting out of a promo opportunity is not easy. ITV seem to be throwing staff at the show - maybe they have too many cooks?
LL
I think the key is going to be a stable host. If the guests are lacklustre, the host will make up for it. There's already a stark different between Walliams' and Bishop's tenure, so nobody really knows what The Nightly Show is trying to be. There needs to be one host that can make the show their own. Nobody in America watches these shows because they're late night shows, which is what ITV is apparently trying to push. They're watching them because of who is hosting them.
CA
Dermot O' Leary is week 4
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep16week12/nightly-show
1.54m last night. Play to the Whistle got nearly the same at 9pm.
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep16week12/nightly-show
1.54m last night. Play to the Whistle got nearly the same at 9pm.
BL
Odd set, odd set positioning, odd camera positioning, odd cutting, presumably part of reason to record it is to sweeten the audience reaction which seemed quite artificial to my ears in places. What a dogs dinner, what a disaster - what were ITV thinking. These things simply don't work in the UK. Just my opinion of course.
LL
I think it is possible for it to work in the UK but it's just that the producers don't know how to do it. Even if I have to reference an article from that despicable paper, it does feel like ITV have watched a few specially uploaded YouTube clips and assume they know how late night shows work. It needs attention to detail and time to settle - neither of which ITV seem prepared to do.