The Nightly Show

Come on, what sets them apart? Daily chat show seems like a huge amount of what both are.

Different audiences? People want different things at 10pm than they do at 5pm. Families will be sitting and having their tea with something cosy like The One Show, whereas people at 10pm will want something a bit more upbeat and lively after a hard working day. Try sticking The Alan Titchmarsh Show at 10pm.

Or put news back at 10pm. Keep 'The Nightly Show' but put it a 9pm or 10.30pm

The 5pm chat shows were more for family audiences and older viewers with the likes of Paul O'Grady, Richard and Judy, Alan Titchmarsh, and Fern Britton (and so on) presenting, which I don't think works as well later on (ITV tried it with Paul O'Grady and I think it was only mildly successful which was a shame)

The same as what set Alan Carr's show apart from Michael Parkinson's old show. They're both the same on the surface but aimed at totally different audiences. For a start the cosy teatime shows lacked the satirical streak shows later at night tend to have. Then there's the different approach to comedy. Paul O'Grady dressed as a fish finger might have the blue rinse brigade in hysterics at 5pm but it's not going to work at 10pm (he tried it remember). I'm not saying all the us late night shows are great because they're not....some of them are terrible. But the better ones are not really comparable to our teatime shows.

I thought Paul O'Grady Live was a good show. The problem was, by that point, Paul had fully transformed from the foul-mouthed drag queen into a loveable family entertainer, so it probably wouldn't been jarring to see him take full advantage of being post-watershed.

I was waiting for this to fail but didn't think it would go as low as 1.36m on night two, even with an obviously awful lead in. With no commercials within it (even on a Tuesday night where primetime is weak) it just makes no commercial sense. They'll hold out for the week and probably longer, but I'd say if by this time next week when the schedules are released for what would be Week 4 of the show if the ratings are hovering around 1.5m and less than 1m for News not at Ten the swap has to be done, and probably from week 3. I suspect though they would hold the late regional news at 11pm.

Here is the problem ITV can' t lose grace, and it has that sponsor, Amazon paid for a 10pm slot, so Amazon will expect a 10pm slot. ITV will wait until next at least to see if a new guest host will improve things, I think there change the host first before moving the slots. We all warned about this, This show need a permanent host and need to be done on the cheap IE like TVAM style or Craig Freguson, so it can find its feet and have a bit of fun, and also maybe expand to 45mins with proper adverts.

Everyone on here want this idea to work, but most people know placing it at 10pm wasn't the best idea, nor making a big song or dance of something new.

Paul OGrady doing would be good. I've seen some good outakes from blankety blank he can be pretty rude in a good way that has audience gasping for breath.

Absolutely deserved. I hope the head rolls of whoever signed off on the decision to put a late night chat show the wrong side of the late news programme.

Thats only half the problems,

Agreed, but what could have developed into a fairly solid performer has been thrust into an unnecessary limelight. Late night works in America because it's shown late at night. Leno proved people don't want the same sort of thing in prime time.