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A former member
If ITV did buyout the GMTV franchised, would ITV still be obliged to start 9.25, and still produces a Breakfast time show until 09.25. The point is there two different contracts and there can be lost at any time (like that ever going to happen) But the original terms of each ITV contract is been the same since at least the 1970’s ( I think) which states there start at 09.25 Each Morning and No earlier

So if ITV owns both there would still have to run to that 09.25 point?

What about SMG OR UTV there can’t start till 09.25, if ITV was giving the green light to start at 9am? Would these 3 stations have to wait to till 09.25 to start broadcasting?

This could happen!
BB
BskyB-is-best
623058 posted:
If ITV did buyout the GMTV franchised, would ITV still be obliged to start 9.25, and still produces a Breakfast time show until 09.25. The point is there two different contracts and there can be lost at any time (like that ever going to happen) But the original terms of each ITV contract is been the same since at least the 1970’s ( I think) which states there start at 09.25 Each Morning and No earlier

So if ITV owns both there would still have to run to that 09.25 point?

What about SMG OR UTV there can’t start till 09.25, if ITV was giving the green light to start at 9am? Would these 3 stations have to wait to till 09.25 to start broadcasting?

This could happen!


What is the point of starting at 09.25 why not 9.00 or 09.30 or 10.00
and GMTV could start at 05.00-09.00 or 09.30 and may be 10.00
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A former member
Well I’m sure this has been mention before, in 1983 when TVAM started, it finished at 09.15 to let the engineers to change some wire so ITV can start at 09.30, then some where in the late 80’s New automatic system can into force( if you watch carefully you can see the change over at 09.24 ) and there gave each other some extra time
NW
nwtv2003
623058 posted:
Well I’m sure this has been mention before, in 1983 when TVAM started, it finished at 09.15 to let the engineers to change some wire so ITV can start at 09.30, then some where in the late 80’s New automatic system can into force( if you watch carefully you can see the change over at 09.24 ) and there gave each other some extra time


You have most of your facts right there, the 9.15-9.30 switch gap didn't last very long, in fact it was about Spring 1983 when British Telecom (yes the same one) automated the switchover, which now took one second rather than 10-15 minutes. TV-am went to the IBA for an extension on their hours, so a 9.25am switchover was agreed in order for ITV stations to broadcast a start-up sequence or a local News bulletin before their first programme at 9.30am. It has been 9.25am ever since, unless the rules of the licence change then we will have this 6.00am-9.25am slot to be on ITV for quite sometime.

If ITV did buy GMTV then they one of the things they have mentioned is that they would integrate GMTV Kids output and CiTV and bring CiTV into the GMTV slot, something that goes to ITV's disadvantage and for the BBC to exploit their brand in their Breakfast slot. But if ITV were to gain full control of GMTV tomorrow then not much would change, it would be the same, maybe just a bit more integration into Mainstream ITV only comes to mind.

Only when ITV owns all the Regional stations from SMG, UTV and Channel aswell as GMTV, then you would probably see some difference.
MR
mrwilliams
ITV will never take full control of GMTV and ITV's contract expires in 7 years meaning GMTV will have to find 75% from somewhere else.

I'm glad ITV will never take full control over GMTV, they would trash it. With their awful presenters, titles and news.
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Andrew Founding member
mrwilliams posted:
ITV will never take full control of GMTV and ITV's contract expires in 7 years meaning GMTV will have to find 75% from somewhere else.

I'm glad ITV will never take full control over GMTV, they would trash it. With their awful presenters, titles and news.

what? Rolling Eyes
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A former member
does that mean that there up for review in 2011?
JO
Jonathan
mrwilliams posted:


[ITV] would trash it. With their awful presenters, titles and news.

IMO, it's the other way round.
MN
MarkN Founding member
mrwilliams posted:
ITV will never take full control of GMTV


If Mickey Mouse ever wanted to sell his share of GMTV to ITV plc, then ITV would take full control.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
623058 posted:
does that mean that there up for review in 2011?


All the ITV franchises are up for renewal in 2011, so says OFCOM anyway. This is supposedly to counter for the great big switchover to digital that's due in 2012 (which I've always said isn't going to happen in 2012) and also because the legislation of the 1990 Broadcasting Act allowed the companies to renew their franchises anything up to about three years before they actually expired.

Therefore you had a situation where a handful of franchises would expire in 2007, others in 2008 and 2009. OFCOM decided this was too much effort so granted sort of "extensions" if you like to bring them all into line to expire at the same time.

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simonipswich
Sadly though there will no BIG changes in 2011 within ITV like back in 1992. Shame though, I'd love to see Carlton get screwed once and for all. Just imagine if Thames came back to London? Oh HEAVEN!!!
DV
dvboy
Surely the only difference between before 9:24:59 and 9:25:00 would be a legal one, ie technically the franchise holder broadcasting would technically change, but if they were broadcasting both franchises from the same place, you could in theory be mid-programme at the time.

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