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MS
msim
Just watching an episode of Poirot from 1994 on ITV3. In the past few years all such repeats (Midsomer, Frost etc) have had their end credits edited to a generic house style with the latest background and font along with a more recent copyright date reflecting when the edit occurred. Tonight however, the Poirot episode kept its original credits, Carnival FIlms and LWT(P) production logos but had a small "ITV Studios Limited MCMXCIV" copyright. Clearly not the totally original credits as the LWT(P) looked slightly fake and I imagine it would originally have had the 1989 ITV logo somewhere.

So has an effect of this rebrand been the abolition of editing credits in the manner described or is this just a one off for some reason?
KE
kernow
msim posted:
Just watching an episode of Poirot from 1994 on ITV3. In the past few years all such repeats (Midsomer, Frost etc) have had their end credits edited to a generic house style with the latest background and font along with a more recent copyright date reflecting when the edit occurred. Tonight however, the Poirot episode kept its original credits, Carnival FIlms and LWT(P) production logos but had a small "ITV Studios Limited MCMXCIV" copyright. Clearly not the totally original credits as the LWT(P) looked slightly fake and I imagine it would originally have had the 1989 ITV logo somewhere.

So has an effect of this rebrand been the abolition of editing credits in the manner described or is this just a one off for some reason?

Basically they have redone the credits for most (if not all) ITV-produced programmes on ITV3 in the original style, but changing the copyright to ITV Studios. This started happening a while ago, long before the rebrand.
MS
msim

Basically they have redone the credits for most (if not all) ITV-produced programmes on ITV3 in the original style, but changing the copyright to ITV Studios. This started happening a while ago, long before the rebrand.


Thanks
JA
JAS84
msim posted:
Just watching an episode of Poirot from 1994 on ITV3. In the past few years all such repeats (Midsomer, Frost etc) have had their end credits edited to a generic house style with the latest background and font along with a more recent copyright date reflecting when the edit occurred. Tonight however, the Poirot episode kept its original credits, Carnival FIlms and LWT(P) production logos but had a small "ITV Studios Limited MCMXCIV" copyright. Clearly not the totally original credits as the LWT(P) looked slightly fake and I imagine it would originally have had the 1989 ITV logo somewhere.

So has an effect of this rebrand been the abolition of editing credits in the manner described or is this just a one off for some reason?
I think that there would've been three endcaps originally. Carnival, LWT (P), with the copyright info on it, and then this:
http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/itvlondon/itvlondon-lwtmain/endboards/endboard-lonwkd1989itv.jpg
LL
Larry the Loafer
JAS84 posted:
msim posted:
Just watching an episode of Poirot from 1994 on ITV3. In the past few years all such repeats (Midsomer, Frost etc) have had their end credits edited to a generic house style with the latest background and font along with a more recent copyright date reflecting when the edit occurred. Tonight however, the Poirot episode kept its original credits, Carnival FIlms and LWT(P) production logos but had a small "ITV Studios Limited MCMXCIV" copyright. Clearly not the totally original credits as the LWT(P) looked slightly fake and I imagine it would originally have had the 1989 ITV logo somewhere.

So has an effect of this rebrand been the abolition of editing credits in the manner described or is this just a one off for some reason?
I think that there would've been three endcaps originally. Carnival, LWT (P), with the copyright info on it, and then this:
http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/itvlondon/itvlondon-lwtmain/endboards/endboard-lonwkd1989itv.jpg


Is there a reason why LWT had two endcaps back in the day - LWTP and "An LWT Production..."? Surely LWT Productions and An LWT Production meant the same thing.
CO
Colm
After in 1993 and the introduction of the "LWT Studios" endcap, the ITV generic production slide changed to "An LWT Programme for ITV".

Video evidence - go to 2:02:

TV
TV Matters
The old itv studios edncap is used after episode 4 or mr self ridge
MD
Martin Dean
I really feel this thread has gone off topic recently, could the endcap chat not go in another thread.
TH
Thinker
I really feel this thread has gone off topic recently, could the endcap chat not go in another thread.


There are several pages worth of off topic conversation here, probably because the generic ITV thread was archived and people didn't know where else to go. It'd be a shame if this becomes one of those rebrand threads that morphs into a generic minutia thread.
SW
Steve Williams
Is there a reason why LWT had two endcaps back in the day - LWTP and "An LWT Production..."? Surely LWT Productions and An LWT Production meant the same thing.


LWTP was a rebranding of their programme-making department, seemingly separate to the company as a whole, presumably the difference between BBC Productions and BBC generally. However, I assume one reason why they did it is because at the time Carlton programmes had Carlton UK Productions afte the end credits, followed by the Carlton endcap, so like Carlton, LWT wanted two flashes of their logo.
JA
JAS84
This one.
http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/itvlondon/itvlondon-carltonmain/endboards/end-carlton1995b.jpg
RI
Richard
Is there a reason why LWT had two endcaps back in the day - LWTP and "An LWT Production..."? Surely LWT Productions and An LWT Production meant the same thing.


LWTP was a rebranding of their programme-making department, seemingly separate to the company as a whole,


I thought it was to try and avoid a Granada takeover. When Granada took over, the LWTP practice ceased.

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