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I don't really see what that has to do with my point. I was correcting the statement which said "Regional TV in the good old days included stuff like local talent contests, even if networked with a regional flavour, or coverage of local comedy clubs, or coverage of local music events." HTV does still produce such programming.

I'm not sure if HTV gets a lot more money. Could someone clarify this.

If I had a quid for every time that BLOODY soap was mentioned on these forums...

You back again? All I have to say is what I said in the other thread: You just can't leave it alone can you?

Re: HTV - isn't it like a so-called "special case" like Scottish programming is where so much material has to be gaelic or whatever the original terms were? I'm sure HTV had something to that effect for Wales... :

it has alot to do with your post. i was pointing out that your assertion that htv is the last bastion of local broadcasting is indeed a misconception - and that the only reason it has a few extra hours is entirely political, and therefore quite irrelevant to mark's previous post about regional scheduling and advertising.

That was actually a pop at Carlton, Neil. It amazes me that they could do that for a pidding little show like SS but not do it for their flagship programme.

RE ITV1 Wales: Yes Neil, that was the case in the 1960s/70s but since S4C's arrival the onus is now on them.

I still really don't see your point. I only highlighted one section of Mark's post about there not being any talent contests etc screened on regional ITV1. I gave a list of programmes which proved that there are such programmes screened on ITV1Wales.

The extra regional hours and why HTV has them is irrelevant. The fact is they do produce programmes which Mark claimed didn't exist on regional television anymore.

well i don't think it's irrelevant - seeing as the whole point of mark's post was more to do with the REASON BEHIND the lack of old-stylee regional shows - not whether htv have any.

I didn't discuss the whole of Mark's post - just the bit which said such programmes do not exist.

why bother taking a chunk of mark's post out of context, when no-one really cares if htv are an exception to the rule? he was making an interesting point, only for you to bumble in with irrelevant lists.

Please don't try and speak for the whole forum. Perhaps others would be interested that HTV are an exception to the rule and still do provide the particular type of programming which Mark has described.

HTV still has the restraints of any other ITV broadcaster (give or take a few hours a week) and manages to produce the programming. Its ad space is sold by Carlton, just as Central & Westcountry. This suggests that Mark's theory cannot be applied to all regions.

So why is my point irrelevant to Mark's original post?

anyone with half a brain knows htv show a few extra hours for political reasons - anyone who didn't know that is either thick, stupid or both - and thus does not really count.


i suggest you peer over the bristol channel to htv west to see how htv wales would be if it were not for political pressure.

your point was and still is irrelevant. mark was talking about the reasons behind the current situation - not the current situation. its quite a simple point im making but you seemed to be too wrapped up in your own self importance to understand. you're not at real verdict now you know.

Dear me.

Mark Boulton begins his comments with this statement:



I think: "wait a minute, those type of programmes still appear on HTV Wales, so there is an exception". So, I post a list, copied from HTV's website, giving examples of those type of programmes which still appear on HTV. I didn't use a quote of his theory, and I didn't contradict him on his theory, even though I understand it.

Simple as that. It was just adding a bit of extra information which was relevant to the above quote. It wasn't essential to this thread, but neither are the majority of the posts.