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(July 2003)

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JE
Jez Founding member
Neil Jones posted:
chrisb posted:
Despite what you may want, I think I can safely say that Shortland Street will not be headlining ITV's new daytime schedule.

We might see it pop up on ITV2 nonetheless...


There is a God! Wink


Just because your Crossroads went off air - you are very bitter obviously - if SS is axed then its axed - I still think the 1998 eps were better than 2001 anyway
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Jez posted:
Neil Jones posted:
chrisb posted:
Despite what you may want, I think I can safely say that Shortland Street will not be headlining ITV's new daytime schedule.

We might see it pop up on ITV2 nonetheless...


There is a God! Wink


Just because your Crossroads went off air - you are very bitter obviously - if SS is axed then its axed - I still think the 1998 eps were better than 2001 anyway


Well if SS goes off the air let's see how bitter you become, ever other post on here from you is SS related, you can't leave it alone so I think you will be bitter if the show falls off the air mid-run. And I am not, by the way.
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A former member
They made an introduction programme for Shortland Street because London and Westcountry had not seen it for years which shows they are committed to it, why make an intro programme otherwise.

Central has the highest level of support for the programme and will continue to show it, you talk about regional programmes, we in the Central region have Shortland St and as long as regional slots exist will continue to, if the slots increase we get more Shortland Street and that suits me fine.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Shortlandstreet posted:
as long as regional slots exist will continue to, if the slots increase we get more Shortland Street and that suits me fine.


Not necessarily. Central will not fill up every regional slot going with Shortland Street, fact. Gotta keep some for true regional programming. Didn't I read somewhere, on a related note, that there was enough episodes up to November some time? Can't find it, it may have fallen off the forum but I'm sure it was here.
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A former member
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Central will not fill up every regional slot going with Shortland Street, fact. Gotta keep some for true regional programming.


No based on the last few years they will, the only reason it si not on 5 days a week is becasue the regional slots were cut if an extra slot were made avaliable on a sunday afternoon like before the friday 'true' regional programme would move there and Shortland Street would increase this is what happened when the Friday network slot became regioanl the regional programme from Thursday moved to Friday and Shortland Street increased to 4 days a week.
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A former member
Jez posted:
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They don't, they designate "14:30-15:00: Regional slot". I dare say when it's all a single ITV this'll change.


But for years and years the ITV regions have shown "overseas" progs in the regional slots - e.g Prisoner Cell Block H, Sons and Daughters, A Country Practice, Blue Heelers were all shown in some regions in local slots so SS is no different


Aye but that was in the days when each ITV company had regional "slots" coming out of their ears -- it wasn't so long ago each station (or in latter years groups of stations) filled up virtually the whole non-prime time/morning/kid's sections with locally-scheduled programming. Going back further to when I were a lad everything virtually on ITV was regional -- even Corrie was moved around by some stations on a fairly regular basis!!!

To be allocated a few hours a week, then fill them up with Shortland Street, is a crime.
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A former member
JE
Jez Founding member
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Well if SS goes off the air let's see how bitter you become, ever other post on here from you is SS related, you can't leave it alone so I think you will be bitter if the show falls off the air mid-run. And I am not, by the way.


I wont be bitter Neil - I like the show and it is still one of my fave programs but if it is axed there is not a lot I can do about it - I will watch every last episode they show. I would feel a bit cheated by Carlton as they made viewers in Wales lose 2 years worth and then axe it again!

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They made an introduction programme for Shortland Street because London and Westcountry had not seen it for years which shows they are committed to it, why make an intro programme otherwise.


Thats right - infact Westcountry hadnt seen the series AT ALL before January 2003 and London showed it for about a year in the mid 90s before axing it to show London Today in the regional slot - Central have always preferred SS to homegrown regional stuff which is why they were so far ahead - HTV were 2 years behind as they have shown less SS and more regional progs over the years.

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Didn't I read somewhere, on a related note, that there was enough episodes up to November some time? Can't find it, it may have fallen off the forum but I'm sure it was here.


Yes they currently have the rights up to about October/November based on what Carlton told me - there is nothing to stop they buying more episodes as if the regional 2.30pm slot will continue in 2004 Carlton could never fill 5 days with "regional" progs so need SS Mon-Thurs and then show their local progs on the Friday.

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To be allocated a few hours a week, then fill them up with Shortland Street, is a crime.


Which is why SS should be networked then we could have regional progs in the 2.30pm slot for Carlton-Central, HTV, London etc
MB
Mark Boulton
Local TV doesn't have to be "Boot Sale Challenge" type rubbish.

Regional TV in the good old days included stuff like local talent contests, even if networked with a regional flavour, or coverage of local comedy clubs, or coverage of local music events.

There's so much potential for regional television - for instance, if UB40 were to play in Birmingham the network might not particularly be interested, but Central could be and would show it.

Similarly, if a Manchester band was playing there Granada could show it (as they would have done in the 70s or 80s).

The problem with National ITV1, Nicey, is that it's crap compared to us...
Sorry, lost your thread there I think mate. ...erm, yes the problem is that all ITV programmes have to satisfy audience demographics researched and analysed in London rather than these decisions being delegated to people with their ears to the ground in the regions. This is also why advertising trends have become so polarised, with boom and bust periods for the channel.

Local media businesses manage to strike up loyalties with local industry and whilst the regional advertising of old may seem quaint, the mid-priced advertising slots for medium-sized businesses in the Midlands, say, would bring in far more money for ATV/Central to spend on regional programmes than a few prestigious national/international brands, which would of course go towards network shows.

The former of the two has been taken out of the equation however, which is why regional programmes are now only ever made with the little spare money there is left over from the one pot.
WH
Whataday Founding member
Mark Boulton posted:
Regional TV in the good old days included stuff like local talent contests, even if networked with a regional flavour, or coverage of local comedy clubs, or coverage of local music events.


ITV1Wales still broadcasts such programmes. Here are some recent (and forthcoming) HTV shows.

Classy Acts
John Parton introduces the best of club entertainment to be seen in Wales. Recorded at four special events at the Cwmfelin Club in Swansea.

Karaoke Queen
Visiting popular karaoke venues, KARAOKE QUEEN gives singers who may not be as fame-hungry as your usual pop star wannabees the chance to show their talents to viewers across Wales.

Young Musician Of Wales 2003
Five young musicians give the performance of a lifetime in the final of the prestigious TEXACO YOUNG MUSICIAN OF WALES 2003 competition in a special programme on ITV1Wales.

The Pop Factory
The Pop Factory an old fizzy drinks plant in the centre of Porth, and now home to a state-of-the-art TV complex is a venue that musicians and bands are queuing up to perform in for itv1wales

Shotgun Slideshow
Featuring up-and-coming Welsh bands in each programme with videos made especially for each band in this series

Presenters
Five hundred television wannabees aim to be HTV’s new star presenter in an eight-part talent series presented by Gabby Logan


ITV1 Wales seems to make a lot of quality television with its production budget.

More can be found at http://www.htvwales.com/programmes/

Autumn programmes: http://www.htvwales.com/autumn
TV
tvmercia Founding member
Whataday posted:
Mark Boulton posted:
Regional TV in the good old days included stuff like local talent contests, even if networked with a regional flavour, or coverage of local comedy clubs, or coverage of local music events.


ITV1Wales still broadcasts such programmes. Here are some recent (and forthcoming) HTV shows.

Classy Acts
John Parton introduces the best of club entertainment to be seen in Wales. Recorded at four special events at the Cwmfelin Club in Swansea.

Karaoke Queen
Visiting popular karaoke venues, KARAOKE QUEEN gives singers who may not be as fame-hungry as your usual pop star wannabees the chance to show their talents to viewers across Wales.

Young Musician Of Wales 2003
Five young musicians give the performance of a lifetime in the final of the prestigious TEXACO YOUNG MUSICIAN OF WALES 2003 competition in a special programme on ITV1Wales.

The Pop Factory
The Pop Factory an old fizzy drinks plant in the centre of Porth, and now home to a state-of-the-art TV complex is a venue that musicians and bands are queuing up to perform in for itv1wales

Shotgun Slideshow
Featuring up-and-coming Welsh bands in each programme with videos made especially for each band in this series

Presenters
Five hundred television wannabees aim to be HTV’s new star presenter in an eight-part talent series presented by Gabby Logan


ITV1 Wales seems to make a lot of quality television with its production budget.

More can be found at http://www.htvwales.com/programmes/

Autumn programmes: http://www.htvwales.com/autumn

that is beside the point really - the only reason htv retains a few extra regional slots and bit extra money is for political reasons, not because of any difference in the welsh advertising market - (because htv's ad space is sold in london by carlton isn't it?)
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A former member
An INTRO programme, eh Neil?

You mean something that filled viewers in on otherwise unexplained storylines?

What a clever idea - solves the problem of unexplained storylines when shows take an extrended break, doesn't it?

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