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If wnt to watch some of the old stuff and can make it upto Bradford the National TV & Film Museum have a lot of archived programming to watch.

The present BBC indie contract is wonderful for those programme makers. They get paid for the programme plus a good profit and then own the programme and all subsidual rights after 2 years. Talk about have your cake & eating it and then owning the bun shop.

Basically the licience fee now pays for the leasing of programming.
MA
markstewart
TROGGLES posted:


The present BBC indie contract is wonderful for those programme makers. They get paid for the programme plus a good profit and then own the programme and all subsidual rights after 2 years. Talk about have your cake & eating it and then owning the bun shop.

Basically the licience fee now pays for the leasing of programming.


Really? Even returning series such as Jonathan Ross? So basically if a show keeps coming back after that initial 2 years the production company own all the rights to it and simply broadcast it on the BBC?
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Huddy Refreshed
623058 posted:
Mr.B posted:
623058 posted:
TVS:

I think its news got past to Meridian Broadcasting

all of its Kids stuff went to Media Merchants, - STV does control Art attack! Expect Fraggle rock


A correction about Fraggle Rock. Although TVS was shown as the UK 'programme maker', in actual fact it was a syndicated programme. The core Fraggle material was produced in Toronto and every country around the world that bought the programme would produce their own 'outside world' footage. In the UK this featured The Captain & Sprocket. In the US, it was 'Doc' and Sprocket. In France it was yet another 'Doc' and 'Crocquette'... etc... etc...

The UK Captain stuff was indeed produced by TVS in this co-production deal, but the whole caboodle has always been owned outright by The Jim Henson Company. TVS just had the initial UK transmission rights.

Also, don't read anything else into it, but it's just a fluke that one of the (UK) episodes on DVD release has the TVS ident at the start.


arrcoding to Wiki there are co- producer;

The first episode aired on January 10, 1983, and the last episode aired on March 30, 1987 for a total of five seasons, with a total of 96 episodes. The show was filmed on a Toronto soundstage, (later at Elstree Studios, London), and was a co-production between former British television company Television South (TVS), the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, United States pay television service Home Box Office and Henson Associates (now Jim Henson Productions).

Its a shame the Boomerang area repeating the American versions.

It would be nice to see the Uk one again bloody Disney!


The British TVS inserts for this programme were filmed at Gillingham (in the old TVS theatre) before a move to Southampton (a famous OB at Southampton bus station confirms this) before moving to Maidstone.

The ITV archive is mainy held at Leeds (all ITV archive jobs are advertised in Leeds, on very limited contracts) - at one point they were going to convert studio 3 into a tape store, but didn't. The problem is in re-running the material. As previously mentioned, formats change and some are unavailable - the physical exists, the actual means doesn't.
NG
noggin Founding member
markstewart posted:
TROGGLES posted:


The present BBC indie contract is wonderful for those programme makers. They get paid for the programme plus a good profit and then own the programme and all subsidual rights after 2 years. Talk about have your cake & eating it and then owning the bun shop.

Basically the licience fee now pays for the leasing of programming.


Really? Even returning series such as Jonathan Ross? So basically if a show keeps coming back after that initial 2 years the production company own all the rights to it and simply broadcast it on the BBC?


The 2 years relates to each individual show not to the programme as a whole - so for the current series of Jonathan Ross the BBC would own the rights for 2 years, with rights for series more than 2 years old returning to the indy that made it?

AIUI there are different contracts for different types of show - and some shows have additional funding from BBC Worldwide, on top of the BBC licence-fee investment from the channels who originally commission the programme. This may be in return for BBC Worldwide having sales rights for the show or for rights to merchandising and sell-through. I'm not an expert - but it remains quite a complicated area.

ISTR that the BBC used to retain more rights than they do now in some cases, something indies have lobbied hard for.
MA
markstewart
noggin posted:
markstewart posted:
TROGGLES posted:


The present BBC indie contract is wonderful for those programme makers. They get paid for the programme plus a good profit and then own the programme and all subsidual rights after 2 years. Talk about have your cake & eating it and then owning the bun shop.

Basically the licience fee now pays for the leasing of programming.


Really? Even returning series such as Jonathan Ross? So basically if a show keeps coming back after that initial 2 years the production company own all the rights to it and simply broadcast it on the BBC?


The 2 years relates to each individual show not to the programme as a whole - so for the current series of Jonathan Ross the BBC would own the rights for 2 years, with rights for series more than 2 years old returning to the indy that made it?

AIUI there are different contracts for different types of show - and some shows have additional funding from BBC Worldwide, on top of the BBC licence-fee investment from the channels who originally commission the programme. This may be in return for BBC Worldwide having sales rights for the show or for rights to merchandising and sell-through. I'm not an expert - but it remains quite a complicated area.

ISTR that the BBC used to retain more rights than they do now in some cases, something indies have lobbied hard for.


Ah right, thanks Smile Any idea what ITV's stance on the situation with indies and rights is? Shocked
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A former member
Where is this Lighthouse? From TVS...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwqo07mMeX4
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Huddy Refreshed posted:
The ITV archive is mainy held at Leeds (all ITV archive jobs are advertised in Leeds, on very limited contracts) - at one point they were going to convert studio 3 into a tape store, but didn't. The problem is in re-running the material. As previously mentioned, formats change and some are unavailable - the physical exists, the actual means doesn't.


That's a good plan - Leeds being close to the museum in Bradford who could probably help with some of the obsolete formats.

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