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ITV may just have to get used to giving shows the chop, with the idea of ratings.
The show was poor - yes, but they should just show the second part for the sake of it.
The show was poor - yes, but they should just show the second part for the sake of it.
DU
It's a bit tiring to read the "let's blame the media" card again.
Don't forget that ITV is a media organisation.
Here's the basic facts- ITV commissioned ANOTHER absolute bottom-of-the-barrel, terrible, hidious, disgustingly unimaginative show.
Very few people watched.
It got ditched.
It's that simple.
No media conspiracy, no media groups ganging up on poor little ITV (which makes hundreds of millions in clear profit each year), nothing.
bee bee see posted:
It's a bit sad that they have done that. Programmes don't seem to be given a chance these days, seeing as they are constantly picked up by the media and ridiculed, often before they even air. Some rightly should be, I'll admit, but others are unfairly criticised.
Is there a way to stop this? It would be nice if the media wasn't as influential as it is, but I guess it was inevitable with the growth of the Internet, the gossipy magazines and the idea that we are now less further apart than we used to be, as a planet.
Is there a way to stop this? It would be nice if the media wasn't as influential as it is, but I guess it was inevitable with the growth of the Internet, the gossipy magazines and the idea that we are now less further apart than we used to be, as a planet.
It's a bit tiring to read the "let's blame the media" card again.
Don't forget that ITV is a media organisation.
Here's the basic facts- ITV commissioned ANOTHER absolute bottom-of-the-barrel, terrible, hidious, disgustingly unimaginative show.
Very few people watched.
It got ditched.
It's that simple.
No media conspiracy, no media groups ganging up on poor little ITV (which makes hundreds of millions in clear profit each year), nothing.
GL
It's a bit tiring to read the "let's blame the media" card again.
Don't forget that ITV is a media organisation.
Here's the basic facts- ITV commissioned ANOTHER absolute bottom-of-the-barrel, terrible, hidious, disgustingly unimaginative show.
Very few people watched.
It got ditched.
It's that simple.
No media conspiracy, no media groups ganging up on poor little ITV (which makes hundreds of millions in clear profit each year), nothing.
Never said there was a conspiracy, but there are still some innocent people who are being ridiculed for no good reason other than to make headlines. I'll admit that this is not the case with this programme on ITV1, but I still think it's happening more often these days.
Also, they should still have let the programme run for however long it was meant to run, in this case two episodes. Taking it off the air is not a good solution to the problem, especially after just one episode. Don't forget the naval drama that ran for three episodes before it was removed - not a lot of viewers, but many people actually complained and said they enjoyed it.
Dunedin posted:
bee bee see posted:
It's a bit sad that they have done that. Programmes don't seem to be given a chance these days, seeing as they are constantly picked up by the media and ridiculed, often before they even air. Some rightly should be, I'll admit, but others are unfairly criticised.
Is there a way to stop this? It would be nice if the media wasn't as influential as it is, but I guess it was inevitable with the growth of the Internet, the gossipy magazines and the idea that we are now less further apart than we used to be, as a planet.
Is there a way to stop this? It would be nice if the media wasn't as influential as it is, but I guess it was inevitable with the growth of the Internet, the gossipy magazines and the idea that we are now less further apart than we used to be, as a planet.
It's a bit tiring to read the "let's blame the media" card again.
Don't forget that ITV is a media organisation.
Here's the basic facts- ITV commissioned ANOTHER absolute bottom-of-the-barrel, terrible, hidious, disgustingly unimaginative show.
Very few people watched.
It got ditched.
It's that simple.
No media conspiracy, no media groups ganging up on poor little ITV (which makes hundreds of millions in clear profit each year), nothing.
Never said there was a conspiracy, but there are still some innocent people who are being ridiculed for no good reason other than to make headlines. I'll admit that this is not the case with this programme on ITV1, but I still think it's happening more often these days.
Also, they should still have let the programme run for however long it was meant to run, in this case two episodes. Taking it off the air is not a good solution to the problem, especially after just one episode. Don't forget the naval drama that ran for three episodes before it was removed - not a lot of viewers, but many people actually complained and said they enjoyed it.
BR
I thought with it being a two-episode run the second episode would get aired, but really who does commission these shows?
We all here seem to have a pretty good idea of shows which are deemed to flop once they are announced - so why don't ITV?
ITV have basically taken their eye off the ball and have seen what, for example, C4 are doing and are trying to fight them on their own ground, rather than use their own strengths.
And they still won't accept responsibility for their own problems - they blame it on C4 and Big Brother and then have a dig at C4 for using Big Brother to prop up it's audience share!
ITV need to forget about the lifestyle crap and short run "event" shows and put their focus into drama and some big entertainment formats which can have extended runs at least once a year.
We all here seem to have a pretty good idea of shows which are deemed to flop once they are announced - so why don't ITV?
ITV have basically taken their eye off the ball and have seen what, for example, C4 are doing and are trying to fight them on their own ground, rather than use their own strengths.
And they still won't accept responsibility for their own problems - they blame it on C4 and Big Brother and then have a dig at C4 for using Big Brother to prop up it's audience share!
ITV need to forget about the lifestyle crap and short run "event" shows and put their focus into drama and some big entertainment formats which can have extended runs at least once a year.
IS
Also, they should still have let the programme run for however long it was meant to run, in this case two episodes. Taking it off the air is not a good solution to the problem, especially after just one episode. Don't forget the naval drama that ran for three episodes before it was removed - not a lot of viewers, but many people actually complained and said they enjoyed it.
1 episode of a 2-parter, which was presumbably a pilot for a more permanant series is a slightly diffrent case to a series being ditched after a good few episodes.
Taking it off air is a good solution - It'll Be Alright on the Night will get a higher audience than Now or Never - more viewers means hitting more targets. The problem ITV has at the moment is that it's not hitting the numbers that it promised its advertisers... this is damage limitation
bee bee see posted:
Also, they should still have let the programme run for however long it was meant to run, in this case two episodes. Taking it off the air is not a good solution to the problem, especially after just one episode. Don't forget the naval drama that ran for three episodes before it was removed - not a lot of viewers, but many people actually complained and said they enjoyed it.
1 episode of a 2-parter, which was presumbably a pilot for a more permanant series is a slightly diffrent case to a series being ditched after a good few episodes.
Taking it off air is a good solution - It'll Be Alright on the Night will get a higher audience than Now or Never - more viewers means hitting more targets. The problem ITV has at the moment is that it's not hitting the numbers that it promised its advertisers... this is damage limitation
GL
Also, they should still have let the programme run for however long it was meant to run, in this case two episodes. Taking it off the air is not a good solution to the problem, especially after just one episode. Don't forget the naval drama that ran for three episodes before it was removed - not a lot of viewers, but many people actually complained and said they enjoyed it.
1 episode of a 2-parter, which was presumbably a pilot for a more permanant series is a slightly diffrent case to a series being ditched after a good few episodes.
Taking it off air is a good solution - It'll Be Alright on the Night will get a higher audience than Now or Never - more viewers means hitting more targets. The problem ITV has at the moment is that it's not hitting the numbers that it promised its advertisers... this is damage limitation
But if there were viewers who had seen the first part and were waiting for the second, which was then pulled, surely they would be disappointed? I'm not saying this is the case with this programme, but I think airing a new programme instead of a repeat, even if the latter does higher ratings, would be better.
Think of the number of times the BBC has been criticised for repeats. ITV should be more worried about quality, not quantity. That is, better produced programmes, not aiming for higher ratings.
Having said that, of course, the programme wasn't exactly the best it could offer, which kind of goes back on all my other statements! Ah well!
Inspector Sands posted:
bee bee see posted:
Also, they should still have let the programme run for however long it was meant to run, in this case two episodes. Taking it off the air is not a good solution to the problem, especially after just one episode. Don't forget the naval drama that ran for three episodes before it was removed - not a lot of viewers, but many people actually complained and said they enjoyed it.
1 episode of a 2-parter, which was presumbably a pilot for a more permanant series is a slightly diffrent case to a series being ditched after a good few episodes.
Taking it off air is a good solution - It'll Be Alright on the Night will get a higher audience than Now or Never - more viewers means hitting more targets. The problem ITV has at the moment is that it's not hitting the numbers that it promised its advertisers... this is damage limitation
But if there were viewers who had seen the first part and were waiting for the second, which was then pulled, surely they would be disappointed? I'm not saying this is the case with this programme, but I think airing a new programme instead of a repeat, even if the latter does higher ratings, would be better.
Think of the number of times the BBC has been criticised for repeats. ITV should be more worried about quality, not quantity. That is, better produced programmes, not aiming for higher ratings.
Having said that, of course, the programme wasn't exactly the best it could offer, which kind of goes back on all my other statements! Ah well!
AN
This shows that once ITV1 or BBC1 have got an underperforming show on their hands they are in a lose lose situation and can't please anyone
Andrew
Founding member
Lee posted:
If its only two episodes, why on earth pull it? Isn't it better to make a decision and go through with that decision, instead of ripping it apart half way through?
CentralWest posted:
I knew it was going to be a flop. I hope that Nigel Marvin thing gets the axe too.
This shows that once ITV1 or BBC1 have got an underperforming show on their hands they are in a lose lose situation and can't please anyone
TV
But also frustrating, and pointless.
marksi posted:
Why not register yourself? It's free.
But also frustrating, and pointless.
CD
But also frustrating, and pointless.
lol, really ? Can't say I find the Media Guardian registration process particuarly stressful myself, but each to their own.
tvarksouthwest posted:
marksi posted:
Why not register yourself? It's free.
But also frustrating, and pointless.
lol, really ? Can't say I find the Media Guardian registration process particuarly stressful myself, but each to their own.