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CR
ColonelRed
RTE had announced yesterday evening that they are to outsource programming for young people by opening it up to the independent sector. Commitment & spending on RTE's production on young people's programming to the independent sector will not be reduced during this period.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/entertainment/rte-to-outsource-young-peoples-tv-programming-765550.html


Seems like this one isn't as black and white as it first seemed

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1125/834494-rte-children-programmes/
FL
flaziola
If this outsourcing goes ahead does this mean the closure of the TRTÉ Saorview channel?
CR
ColonelRed
If this outsourcing goes ahead does this mean the closure of the TRTÉ Saorview channel?


No - they aren't cutting any hours just redefining how it is made. Hopefully if they can lower the cost per hour by external commissioning they may even increase hours which would be a good aspiration
PC
p_c_u_k
For a country with a population smaller than Scotland which has access to 99% of British television, a very strong state broadcaster and established commercial channels, it has always baffled me that Ireland business types continue to launch new stations.

I can see what UTV was trying to do but even they must have known that it was going to end one way - with the destruction of TV3 or UTV as a totality. And Irish TV feels like another one of those channels that comes around every decade or so that you know is just doomed.

As far as I'm concerned Irish broadcasting punches well above its weight, and I often look over from Scotland with sheer jealousy with some of the programming on offer - especially on radio. But when you've got a relatively small population to sell to and the whole of UK TV to compete with, someone has to restore some common sense. Brutally, it appears to be the market that's done it on this occasion.
CH
chinamug
For a country with a population smaller than Scotland which has access to 99% of British television, a very strong state broadcaster and established commercial channels, it has always baffled me that Ireland business types continue to launch new stations.

I can see what UTV was trying to do but even they must have known that it was going to end one way - with the destruction of TV3 or UTV as a totality. And Irish TV feels like another one of those channels that comes around every decade or so that you know is just doomed.

As far as I'm concerned Irish broadcasting punches well above its weight, and I often look over from Scotland with sheer jealousy with some of the programming on offer - especially on radio. But when you've got a relatively small population to sell to and the whole of UK TV to compete with, someone has to restore some common sense. Brutally, it appears to be the market that's done it on this occasion.


Actually the theory was sound, Start a Station in the Republic with the soaps and regain the Market share that UTV had 15 years ago when it was a clear number 2 in the market (probably the only Commercial TV station in Ireland North or South that has made a healthy profit most years) TV3 was a basket case of a station and without the soaps it would quickly flounder.

However, While the theory was sound the implementation of the plan was terrible. If there was a mistake to be made, UTV management made it. They spent too much on News, too little on other Irish Programmes. They signed Pat Kenny who is not a ratings draw even if he would like to think so. But the biggest mistake they made was calling it UTV Ireland. Most Irish people would have a soft spot for RTE1, UTV and the BBC. Trading on the UTV name might have seemed like a good idea, but they thought that they were getting UTV Ulster with a few added programmes. Instead they got a watered down version that didn't know what it was.

Having said that and looking at the losses of both UTV and TV3 there would still have been a chance of this plan of sweating out TV3 succeeding until John Malone and Virgin Media came along. For whatever reason he bought TV3 and with the cash that He and Virgin has there could only be one winner. TV3 group lost 17 million last year, UTV Ireland lost 19 million. They have a huge job on their hands. However, One big commercial Broadcaster should make a profit out of the country. But the early signs aren't good. UTV Ireland is a healthy Second in Primetime right now because of the soaps but from the 1st of December TV3 are taking the Soaps back and they're gutting UTV Ireland.

I would hope in the new year all 3 channels are relaunched with logical schedules but it won't surprise me if in 12 or 18 months TV3 executives are complaining again about the uneven pitch they play on. I hope I'm wrong. However, ITV have wisely decided not to run UTV Ireland themselves, that should tell us something.
DV
dvboy
News at 8pm seems to be moving to 3e.
SD
SuperDave
Meanwhile Emmerdale and Corrie are replaced by a programme about London Zoo at 7pm and Bargain Shop Wars at 8.30 next Monday. No other changes according to RTÉ Guide.
RD
rdd Founding member
TV3's acquisition of UTV Ireland closed today, with job losses the first order on the agenda unfortunately. The station now enters a thirty day consultation period with staff, but everything is moving to TV3.

There will be a new brand introduced by (or more likely at) the end of the year.
FB
FBC
RTE.IE: TV3 confirms redundancies may be unavoidable following UTV Ireland acquisition
http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2016/1201/835800-tv3-says-redundancies-may-be-unavoidable/
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rdd Founding member
Report that the new brand will be announced on Tuesday and may be the uninspiring "B3".

http://m.independent.ie/business/media/new-utv-ireland-name-could-be-b3-35261604.html
LS
Lou Scannon
Why a "B"?
RD
rdd Founding member
I think it's meant to be a "Be" TBH. Still doesn't explain it of course, but read whatever blurb the agency that came up with "ITV Be" did and I'm sure the reasons will be similar.

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