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CH
chinamug
rdd posted:
RTE launched its new Irish langauge strategy yesterday and one thing it will me is that, if it is followed through, bilingual and Irish continuity announcements before English langauge programmes are to become the norm. Some programmes, such as GAA, are to be preceded by Irish continuity announcements always. Now I don't mind Irish continuity announcements before Irish langauge peogrammes, but to do them before English programmes seems an odd form of lip service.


I'd agree 100 percent that having continuity before English programmes is lip service. looking at the actual proposals, it appears that they're just reintroducing old plans and giving them a modern gloss, they'll be dropped again in a few years, and then someone else will come up with the same proposals all over again.

From

http://www.rte.ie/about/en/press-office/press-releases/2015/0831/724712-rte-director-general-noel-curran-launches-rtes-irish-language-a/

" Announcing a range of initiatives, RTÉ confirmed that viewers will, for the first time, be able to choose to hear this year’s All-Ireland television commentaries in Irish. Other commitments in the Action Plan include:

Bi-lingual bulletins on 2fm
A new youth-orientated Irish-language radio service
Innovative content for language learners
Centre of excellence in Irish-language media training
Increased use of Irish in television promos, continuity and weather bulletins
Next version of the RTÉ Player to include Irish-language option for the navigational user interface
Advertisers and advertising agencies will be incentivised and supported to provide advertising in Irish on television, radio and digital
"

Now, most of these have been done in the past in one form or another. For some of the 80's RTE2 used to carry the All Ireland in Irish while it was in English on RTE1.

RnaG have a youth strand every Night already.

There will always be shows to learn Languages, Irish is no exception.

In fact the only thing here that's anyway new is the Bi-lingual bulletins on 2fm. They'll easy to do and no one will listen to them.

There are already discounts for Advertisers if they advertise in Irish.

It's all bluster, there will be a little action and that will be that.
CH
chinamug
Turns out that TV3 isn't broadcasting in HD on Saorview because Saorview isn't a HD service Shocked
Huge puff piece on The Last Word on Today FM With Matt Cooper...

Lynda McQuaid Head of Content TV3 "We are broadcasting in HD for the Rugby World Cup, but you need a HD box to receive it."

Matt Cooper " So that would be SKY, UPC but not necessarily Saorview? is it"

Lynda McQuaid Head of Content TV3 "that's it"

Matt Cooper "Because Saorview isn't a HD Box"

Lynda McQuaid Head of Content TV3 "Yes"

Matt Cooper "That just to clarify that position so, You need a HD box to do that"

Seriously, were do they get these people. They're either not very bright or they're just blatantly not telling the truth, I know if I said anything like that on a broadcast medium about my company I'd be shown the door either for telling porkies or pure incompetence.
DV
dvboy
Don't RTE broadcast in HD on Saorview??
CH
chinamug
dvboy posted:
Don't RTE broadcast in HD on Saorview??

Yes they do. But now according to Lynda McQuaid it isn't possible because Saorview boxes aren't HD boxes. Laughing
PF
PFML84
Saorview boxes are all MPEG4 as that is the broadcast standard they use and MPEG4 supports HD, as RTÉ 1 and 2 are in HD on Saorview, so TV3 are talking out of their arses or they are covering themselves so the general public don't realise they aren't going HD on Saorview because they don't want to pay the extra fees associated with it.
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DV
dvboy
dvboy posted:
Don't RTE broadcast in HD on Saorview??

Yes they do. But now according to Lynda McQuaid it isn't possible because Saorview boxes aren't HD boxes. Laughing


To be fair, the interviewer lead her into saying that, but it does show lack of understanding on her part.

(I'd have thought it obvious that you need a HD box to watch something in HD!)
CH
chinamug
dvboy posted:
dvboy posted:
Don't RTE broadcast in HD on Saorview??

Yes they do. But now according to Lynda McQuaid it isn't possible because Saorview boxes aren't HD boxes. Laughing


To be fair, the interviewer lead her into saying that, but it does show lack of understanding on her part.

(I'd have thought it obvious that you need a HD box to watch something in HD!)


The Interviewer is hosting TV3's Coverage of the World Cup. Basically either neither of them know what they're talking about or they're covering up. I really worry if it's the first because that's her full time job and she can't handle a softball interview. It also brings into question the rest of that show and journalism in Ireland in general. If they're getting this so wrong what else is incorrect.

In the long run it doesn't matter, None of the Rugby fans I work with will be watching it on TV3 anyway. It'll be ITV HD on Satellite for all of them.
BK
bkman1990
It is not a surprise that TV3 will not have the money to cater for viewers of the RWC in HD on Saorview because simply; and won't bother to say it; because that they will not have the money for it.

I will watching the RWC on ITV HD as I have it on Satellite anyway.

In other news there is a test tranmission reserved for LCN 12 on Saorview as it will be probably be catered for RTE2+1.
RD
rdd Founding member
The rate card for Saorview, which guarentees 2rn a certain income from each multiplex no matter how many channels are on it, makes it very difficult for channels that aren't owned by RTE to join the platform.
CH
chinamug
rdd posted:
The rate card for Saorview, which guarentees 2rn a certain income from each multiplex no matter how many channels are on it, makes it very difficult for channels that aren't owned by RTE to join the platform.


That's mostly TV3's own fault, if they had paid their bills on time in the past the current formula for stations paying for Saorview would probably be very different. However, It would be an extra 1.5 million to go to HD appox a year. While that's a large amount, it would probably mean much larger audiences. Most people who use Saorview are also using FTA Satellite. Every time there's something on ITV HD and TV3, ITV is likely to be the choice.

It's the same with UTV Ireland. One of the biggest mistakes they made was to stick with SD on Saorview. There's at least 30% of the country that can't watch either of these stations on HD on Saorview but can watch ITV HD free on Satellite.

However, either silly fibs or not actually knowing how your station is broadcast is not really acceptable. Come out and tell the truth or on the other hand get a job that you actually know what you're doing, (that would go for both parties in the interview by the way)
Last edited by chinamug on 2 September 2015 11:44pm
PF
PFML84
In other news there is a test tranmission reserved for LCN 12 on Saorview as it will be probably be catered for RTE 2+1.
I wonder if it will be a full time channel or simply a 7pm onwards repeat of the evening schedule, like RTÉ 1+1 is...
RD
rdd Founding member
RTE and Sky new carriage deal now confirmed, RTE One HD, RTE One+1 and RTE News Now to join Sky in the Republic of Ireland.

http://m.rte.ie/ten/news/2015/0904/725719-sky-rte-announce-long-term-partnership/

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