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Just image, Scotland had it's own terrestial channels

(March 2005)

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kiwiboy
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
All New Johnnyboy posted:
No disrespect, but Scotland, on its own, is too poor and small to support national broadcasters who commission the vast majority of their own programs.

The population of Scotland is only around double that of my area, Tyne Tees, and there just is not the economic activity, diversity and strength in my area to support one regional, programme-producing company.

To all Scots, like all Geordies and Welsh, forget true indepedence. We just ain't creative, dynamic or entrepreneurial enough to get along in this world by ourselves.


Codswallop - speak for yourself. Tell that to the Danish - who have the same population (approx) as Scotland - and has a credible broadcasting service.


Down under here in New Zealand we have five 'terrestrial' national channels with no problems- two state-owned, three commercial, plus a whole host of regional channels, not to mention satellite/digital channels. We've got a population of 4 million- if we can do it, so could Scotland!

Haggis and kumara (Maori sweet potato) for all!
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Brekkie
The comments used to start this topic haven't really been thought out - just a case of changing the names a bit - which is basically what we have now.


A better way to analyse this is probably to consider what difference there would be if the public service broadcaster (the BBC) was devolved so we had different versions in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.


I think in this case in Wales S4C wouldn't exist - instead BBC1 and BBC2 would probably be an English channel and Welsh channel respectively. I think in NI and Scotland you'd probably see "BBC1" offering the majority of local programmes, but "BBC2" being home to imported programmes from England!
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Brekkie
The comments used to start this topic haven't really been thought out - just a case of changing the names a bit - which is basically what we have now.


A better way to analyse this is probably to consider what difference there would be if the public service broadcaster (the BBC) was devolved so we had different versions in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.


I think in this case in Wales S4C wouldn't exist - instead BBC1 and BBC2 would probably be an English channel and Welsh channel respectively. I think in NI and Scotland you'd probably see "BBC1" offering the majority of local programmes, but "BBC2" being home to imported programmes from England!
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
Any chance you could edit the title in your first post, Mr Ender?

I've only just looked at this thread as I thought it was about images.
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Ant
I'm happy with the TV in Scotland at the moment (except SMG's presentation). I'd hate it if we had seperate TV.
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
I'm not in favour of any change, but if there were to be any, then the radio model is probably what's required.

Make all the "London" national services available, plus two services for the country concerned, one in English and one in the local language.
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Ant
Also, if we did ever change to SBC (or whatever), the schedual i'm sure would be utter crap. I'm happy staying with what it is now.
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All New Johnnyboy
Scotland launching its own independent broadcaster?

Two words. Sky Scottish.

Nay chance.
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tvmercia Founding member
what a wonderful idea - a perfect chance to introduce separate licence fees for each of the nations. that way, all these extra services in the provinces, would be paid for by the people of the provinces.
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All New Johnnyboy
tvmercia posted:
what a wonderful idea - a perfect chance to introduce separate licence fees for each of the nations. that way, all these extra services in the provinces, would be paid for by the people of the provinces.


Exactly. The idea of a viable and independent Scottish TV channel producing its own programs is as comical as an independent and vibrant Scottish nation.
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Stuart
I have noticed a slight flaw in Scottishender's assumptions which will anger our Welsh Forumers:

Despite the nomenclature given to BBC Wales as a "nation" it is in fact no such thing politically speaking, any more than Cornwall is. Wales has been a principality of ENGLAND since the 1300s, hence why they have an "assembly" (ableit misnamed a "National Assembly") rather than a "parliament".

This is a common mistake often overlooked by people who glibly refer to England and Wales as seperate entities. You will note that all english law applies to "England & Wales" whenever discussed by politicians"

In the event of Scottishender's fantasy of the union of 1603/1701/1801 never having existed for Scotland then England & Wales would probably have renamed themselves "Britiain" as a sop to keep the Welsh from declaring independance - we would still therefore have the BBC, ITV, C4, five (and I suppose S4C) since this would still be the majority population of the Island (and therefore the greatest wealth producing and TV production area - selling off programmes to an impoverished northern neighbour).

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TELEVISION
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
All New Johnnyboy posted:
No disrespect, but Scotland, on its own, is too poor and small to support national broadcasters who commission the vast majority of their own programs.

The population of Scotland is only around double that of my area, Tyne Tees, and there just is not the economic activity, diversity and strength in my area to support one regional, programme-producing company.

To all Scots, like all Geordies and Welsh, forget true indepedence. We just ain't creative, dynamic or entrepreneurial enough to get along in this world by ourselves.


Codswallop - speak for yourself. Tell that to the Danish - who have the same population (approx) as Scotland - and has a credible broadcasting service.


I agree with you totally. Scotland is a VERY creative, dynamic and entrepreneurial country. I don't know what this proposed service would be like, but anything with less emphasis on England and Wales would suit me.

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