DA
Do you really get confused by ITV Day or are you just saying other viewers get confused? What evidence do you have for this?
Scheduling
-- At 8pm we start to see some home-grown documentaries
What does 'home-grown' mean in this context?
Do you work in marketing?
tvfreak posted:
Let's be honest. ITV is in a mess. It needs to sort it all out.
Presentation
-- ITV Day is a bad idea, it needs the axe, it's just splitting the channels up further and confusing the viewers as we lose the ITV1.
Presentation
-- ITV Day is a bad idea, it needs the axe, it's just splitting the channels up further and confusing the viewers as we lose the ITV1.
Do you really get confused by ITV Day or are you just saying other viewers get confused? What evidence do you have for this?
tvfreak posted:
Scheduling
-- At 8pm we start to see some home-grown documentaries
What does 'home-grown' mean in this context?
Do you work in marketing?
JE
Why isnt ITV2 the place for Corrie repeats? Its ITV's flagship program and ITV2 is meant to show repeats of ITV's best programs for viewers to get another chance.
Current Corrie there is more than enough of, but I would welcome repeats of old episodes on one of ITV's channels, most likely if any do show them it will be ITV3.
Jez
Founding member
tvfreak posted:
ITV2 is not the place for Corrie repeats.
ITV3 could screen classic Corrie/Emmerdale at 11am and then reruns of the latest episodes at 11pm.
ITV3 could screen classic Corrie/Emmerdale at 11am and then reruns of the latest episodes at 11pm.
Why isnt ITV2 the place for Corrie repeats? Its ITV's flagship program and ITV2 is meant to show repeats of ITV's best programs for viewers to get another chance.
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As if there isn't enough Corrie on "ITV1".
Current Corrie there is more than enough of, but I would welcome repeats of old episodes on one of ITV's channels, most likely if any do show them it will be ITV3.
HA
ITV3 should give us what it promised. According to PLUS: "PLUS is now ITV3" which means it should show programmes which were on PLUS.
Where is the Tommy Cooper, Bullseye, and all the other good stuff ITV shoved in the shredder of reality?
tvfreak posted:
ITV2 is not the place for Corrie repeats.
ITV3 could screen classic Corrie/Emmerdale at 11am and then reruns of the latest episodes at 11pm.
ITV3 could screen classic Corrie/Emmerdale at 11am and then reruns of the latest episodes at 11pm.
ITV3 should give us what it promised. According to PLUS: "PLUS is now ITV3" which means it should show programmes which were on PLUS.
Where is the Tommy Cooper, Bullseye, and all the other good stuff ITV shoved in the shredder of reality?
PA
Based on the Channel 4 schedule, a new idea.
http://img257.echo.cx/img257/7026/schedule3hi.gif
http://img257.echo.cx/img257/7026/schedule3hi.gif
MS
You know, its fabulous to see that you have so much passion for this topic, but realistically you are shouting into an empty hall. Yes, I agree with much of what you say, especially the presentation (with ITV Day looking like a completely different channel to the peak hours) but ITV1 still remains the UK's most watched and popular channel. It panders to the vast majority of the lower end of the audience demographic, the 'so-called' C2DE's, you know, the one's who I'm sure will be voting Labour in tomorrow's election. It's ripe for a big takeover, purely because of its popularity and attraction to advertisers.
Therefore, it'll continue to churn out much of the same and in respect of quality, you can forget it, it's more a case of QUANTITY not QUALITY.
What's great in this age of Sky+ is that you can cut out the crap and watch what you want, when you want it. Scheduled television has a very limited life.
tvfreak posted:
Let's be honest. ITV is in a mess. It needs to sort it all out.
The presentation. The channels. The schedules. The potential is there. But they're just not seeing it. So, what needs to be done?
Presentation
Okay, where the hell are they going with it? Here are my suggestions:
-- An overhaul of presentation is necessary. Just an idea. The 'i t v' text I think should be white. It should always be white. They need to stick to one logo, I've chosen the stacked.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-2/951415/idea.jpg
-- The News needs sorting out too, new set, logo, presentation. It was vastly improved last time, but still needs work.
-- ITV Day is a bad idea, it needs the axe, it's just splitting the channels up further and confusing the viewers as we lose the ITV1.
Scheduling
ITV schedules are crap. Period. They HAVE to stop relying on Corobloodynation Street to get the ratings, sandwiching it inbetween shows to get good ratings. It must STOP. Same with Emmerdale being on everyday that God sends.
-- Coronation Street and Emmerdale back to thrice weekly. Imperative.
-- News schedule overhauled. 10.30pm bulletin is an obstacle for anything airing at 10pm and also anything longer than 90 minutes airing at 9. Here's my suggestion:
ITV Lunchtime News at 1.30pm (1 hour)
ITV Evening News at 6.00pm (1 hour)
ITV Late News at 11.00pm (30 minutes)
-- CStreet airs Mon Weds Fri 7.30pm, Emmerdale on Tues Weds Thurs at 7.00pm. Any spare slots in the 7-8pm hour are filled with regional programming or extra episodes of Emmerdale & Corrie if absolutely necessary, ie if there's a heart-stopping storyline which demands an hour-long episode.
-- At 8pm we start to see some home-grown documentaries, lifestyle shows, and a revamped Tonight with Trevor, which airs on Monday for an hour.
-- The Bill moves to 9pm on Thursdays, once a week.
-- Dramas and Films start at 9pm.
The ITV Channels
-- ITV2 is an entertainment channel. Duh. So no more Corrie/E'Dale repeats. Sort out a decent daytime lineup and have the primetime filled with new programming, reality shows, American Idol, perhaps a daily music show or an entertainment news bulletin.
-- ITV3 is a showcase channel, broadcasting the best classic dramas and US imports, so basically it stays the same, apart from same-night repeats of Emmerdale and Corrie starting at 11pm or something.
-- ITV1 is a mixture of the above, providing a bit for everyone.
-- ITV Kids, the joint venture with Nickolodeon, a rival to CBBC, showing babies/little kiddies shows in the morning and into afternoon and then 6-12 year old programming in the afternoon followed by teen programming such as 'Girls in Love' until the channel closes at 7pm.
-- ITV News Channel, self-explanatory.
That's all, sorry this is long, but I think ITV need to buck it's ideas up otherwise it won't do well to keep up in the fierce multi-channel battle - especially with the impending digital switchover...
Any thoughts?
The presentation. The channels. The schedules. The potential is there. But they're just not seeing it. So, what needs to be done?
Presentation
Okay, where the hell are they going with it? Here are my suggestions:
-- An overhaul of presentation is necessary. Just an idea. The 'i t v' text I think should be white. It should always be white. They need to stick to one logo, I've chosen the stacked.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-2/951415/idea.jpg
-- The News needs sorting out too, new set, logo, presentation. It was vastly improved last time, but still needs work.
-- ITV Day is a bad idea, it needs the axe, it's just splitting the channels up further and confusing the viewers as we lose the ITV1.
Scheduling
ITV schedules are crap. Period. They HAVE to stop relying on Corobloodynation Street to get the ratings, sandwiching it inbetween shows to get good ratings. It must STOP. Same with Emmerdale being on everyday that God sends.
-- Coronation Street and Emmerdale back to thrice weekly. Imperative.
-- News schedule overhauled. 10.30pm bulletin is an obstacle for anything airing at 10pm and also anything longer than 90 minutes airing at 9. Here's my suggestion:
ITV Lunchtime News at 1.30pm (1 hour)
ITV Evening News at 6.00pm (1 hour)
ITV Late News at 11.00pm (30 minutes)
-- CStreet airs Mon Weds Fri 7.30pm, Emmerdale on Tues Weds Thurs at 7.00pm. Any spare slots in the 7-8pm hour are filled with regional programming or extra episodes of Emmerdale & Corrie if absolutely necessary, ie if there's a heart-stopping storyline which demands an hour-long episode.
-- At 8pm we start to see some home-grown documentaries, lifestyle shows, and a revamped Tonight with Trevor, which airs on Monday for an hour.
-- The Bill moves to 9pm on Thursdays, once a week.
-- Dramas and Films start at 9pm.
The ITV Channels
-- ITV2 is an entertainment channel. Duh. So no more Corrie/E'Dale repeats. Sort out a decent daytime lineup and have the primetime filled with new programming, reality shows, American Idol, perhaps a daily music show or an entertainment news bulletin.
-- ITV3 is a showcase channel, broadcasting the best classic dramas and US imports, so basically it stays the same, apart from same-night repeats of Emmerdale and Corrie starting at 11pm or something.
-- ITV1 is a mixture of the above, providing a bit for everyone.
-- ITV Kids, the joint venture with Nickolodeon, a rival to CBBC, showing babies/little kiddies shows in the morning and into afternoon and then 6-12 year old programming in the afternoon followed by teen programming such as 'Girls in Love' until the channel closes at 7pm.
-- ITV News Channel, self-explanatory.
That's all, sorry this is long, but I think ITV need to buck it's ideas up otherwise it won't do well to keep up in the fierce multi-channel battle - especially with the impending digital switchover...
Any thoughts?
You know, its fabulous to see that you have so much passion for this topic, but realistically you are shouting into an empty hall. Yes, I agree with much of what you say, especially the presentation (with ITV Day looking like a completely different channel to the peak hours) but ITV1 still remains the UK's most watched and popular channel. It panders to the vast majority of the lower end of the audience demographic, the 'so-called' C2DE's, you know, the one's who I'm sure will be voting Labour in tomorrow's election. It's ripe for a big takeover, purely because of its popularity and attraction to advertisers.
Therefore, it'll continue to churn out much of the same and in respect of quality, you can forget it, it's more a case of QUANTITY not QUALITY.
What's great in this age of Sky+ is that you can cut out the crap and watch what you want, when you want it. Scheduled television has a very limited life.
AD
And what about Regional programmes?
tvfreak posted:
Based on the Channel 4 schedule, a new idea.
http://img257.echo.cx/img257/7026/schedule3hi.gif
http://img257.echo.cx/img257/7026/schedule3hi.gif
And what about Regional programmes?
NW
As nicely as that is designed, you have to be realistic, the main Regional News bulletins wouldn't go out at 5.00pm, 5.30pm is the absoloute earliest, but that's if it's only an hour.
I personally don't have any problems of where the News is scheduled, it's just what's usually between the the 6.30pm and the 10.30pm is the problem.
tvfreak posted:
Based on the Channel 4 schedule, a new idea.
http://img257.echo.cx/img257/7026/schedule3hi.gif
http://img257.echo.cx/img257/7026/schedule3hi.gif
As nicely as that is designed, you have to be realistic, the main Regional News bulletins wouldn't go out at 5.00pm, 5.30pm is the absoloute earliest, but that's if it's only an hour.
I personally don't have any problems of where the News is scheduled, it's just what's usually between the the 6.30pm and the 10.30pm is the problem.
AN
Andrew
Founding member
Is there some sort of rule on this forum that 365 days a year there is always a thread trying to redesign ITV1's schedule, using totally vague and unlikely blocking of genres across the hours. Surely it's already all been said!
This sort of thing is just unrealistic. You've got Family Film at 5.30pm on a Sunday, so there's 52 films a year that will fit a 1 hour 30 slot is there?
This sort of thing is just unrealistic. You've got Family Film at 5.30pm on a Sunday, so there's 52 films a year that will fit a 1 hour 30 slot is there?