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(September 2003)

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cat
chiguy33 posted:
These "live hits" are never used for the full network coverage. These are generic "live hits" for the hundreds of CBS affilites across the country. The service is called CBS NewsPath. All the networks and news channels have a "shadow" network for use by affiliates to use for live hits and special reports that the network would normally cover. They use their own reporters and such. Fox News Channel is called FOX NEWS EDGE. CNN's is called CNNnewsSource. NBC's is NBC NEWSCHANNEL. ABC's is called ABCNEWSone. They sell the live reports and footage to affiliates to use as a supplement to the network they are affiliated with.

here is the site for the CBS News affiliate service http://www.newspath.cbs.com/


Sorry, you're absolutely right, should've thought of that actually.

The CNN Newsource (one 's') service was the original, well... I suppose ITNA was the original, but of the remaining ones it is. The networks established their services later.

Interestingly - in the context of this site, at least - the entire DOG phenomenon was a by-product of the CNN Newsource service. It was unheard of for DOGs to be used until CNN began to provide its coverage to local affilliates. The service was so successful that rival networks in certain cities began to steal coverage from CNN. Obviously being "clean" (i.e. graphic free) they could get away with no-one knowing. CNN slapped a DOG up and it solved the problem.

Wasn't ABC's News Source? Or is that their archive? Certainly ABC have, or had, a service called News Source.

Just having a look at the CNN Newsource website, which is password protected before you try and access it, they are primarily providing scripts for the local networks today, although the breaking news feed has live inserts. As indicated below (not intended for public release, but I doubt they'll mind)

Event: HURRICANE ISABEL LIVE SIGNALS
Time: 1100GMT/ONGOING
Date: 9/18/2003
Locator: TOPSAIL BEACH, NC;KILL DEVIL HILLS, NC; VIRGINIA BEACH, VA
Source: CNN
Embargo: None
Satellite: INS
Downlink:
Description:
AS HURRICANE ISABEL IS APPROACHINGAND LANDFALLING ON THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. COAST, WE PROVIDE VARIOUS LIVE SIGNALS OF LOCATIONS WITH THE MOST ACTIVITY. THESE LOCATIONS RANGE FROM TOPSAIL BEACH, NORTH CAROLINA, WHERE CNN REPORTER GARY TUCHMAN IS LOCATED, TO KILL DEVIL HILLS, WITH CNN'S BRIAN CABELL REPORTING, AND VIRGINIA BEACH, VIGINIAAND CNN REPORTER KATHLEEN KOCH. WE MAY ALSO GO TO A SIGNAL NEAR ATLANTIC BEACH,NORTH CAROLINA WHERE CNN'S JEFF FLOCK IS REPORTING LIVE. THE FULL FORCE OF THE STORM IS ESTIMATED TO BE HITTING LAND AT APPROXIMATELY 1400EDT/1800GMT. WEMAY INTERUPT OR SLIGHTLY DELAY THE START OF THE 1800GMT FEED IF DRAMATIC LIVE DEVELOPMENTS REGARDING THE STORM WARRANT.
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A former member
c@t posted:

Wasn't ABC's News Source? Or is that their archive? Certainly ABC have, or had, a service called News Source.


I cant find a specific site but this was in the jobs section of the ABC News site:
NEWSONE
ABC NewsOne is the affiliate news feed service of ABC News. NewsOne gathers and produces news material for ABC affiliates and other clients in the U.S. and around the world. The internship at NewsOne is intended to be a learning experience for you. The emphasis is on exposing you to various areas of our operation. During your internship, you will work within different areas of NewsOne. Some of these areas include the newsdesk, satellite operations, the Northeast bureau, digital services, and client services. You will also be exposed to the editorial side of NewsOne, including accompanying producers and crews on shoots, writing, and editing. The goal is to have you leave the internship with an understanding of how a 24-hour newsroom functions in the 21st Century.

We see this generic reports mostly on at the top of the local newscasts. The timing has to be very good or it looks really messy. The presenter will usually say thanks "generic reporter" after the reporter will say "back to you". Most viewers are unaware the live report was fed to hundreds of stations at the same time. usually based on Time zone.
CA
cat
I think it must be the ABC News archive that's News Source.

Regardless, certainly a more logical way of doing it than sending correspondents from across the country to one place, and quite obviously cheaper for those poorer-than-poor networks out in the wilderness.
KA
Katherine Founding member
This is absolutely riveting viewing, Hurricane Isabel!! It's not one of my more-watched channels, but I have to put in a good word for the ggreat coverage provided by FOX News about Hurricane Isabel. Being a weather enthusiast (LONG BEFORE a certain forecaster entered the equation!), I was totally absorbed by this story, and ended up watching FOX News for most of this afternoon, as Isabel slammed into the east coast of the USA.

FOX News reporter Jeff Goldblatt really looks like he could do with a week-long holiday after Isabel dies down and dissipates over northern USA and Canada into the weekend. Poor bloke, having to walk into the gales with that wind gust measuring device so many times, hope someone gives him a decently strong cup of coffee/tea after he's finished!

Regarding the dubious tastefulness of the man standing in the wind tunnel, I didn't have any problems with it at all. I know that for his 'Speed' series a few years ago, Jeremy Clarkson did the same thing, and actually got scooped off the ground as the wind speed rose. I think he managed to cope until the wind speed reached about 100 MPH!! Such an experiment wasn't trivial, it helps explain clearly what the effects on the body are like in winds that strong. An interesting approach....

To me, hurricanes, tornadoes and lightning storms can be both positively and negatively awesome sights. Seeing the full fury of Hurricane Isabel has certainly provided me with extra impetus to fulfil my long-held ambition to go on a 'storm chasing holiday' seeing lightning storms, tornadoes etc in the USA, and the sooner the better.
TW
Turnbull and Williams
BBCTV2003 posted:
I agree with the comment about the BBC putting their correspondents through the worst.

Poor Nick Bryant during the 6 O Clock News, He was being blown around and was trying to hold on for dear life. He even said that the camera was being held stable by two cameramen.

I wonder if he will be around for the Ten O Clock News or if the conditions will be too bad.


Yes, poor Nick was out in it during the 10, and he certainly looked a little windswept - in fact he was close to blowing over at times!
AN
Andrew Founding member
Square Eyes posted:
LOL, just what is ITV's Robert Moore wearing over there ? He's in bright yellow cagoul and trousers, at least there's no chance of him going missing Laughing


Indeed, and as mentioned ITV NC keep dipping into a bit of MSNBC every now and then. Sian Lloyd also gave us a detailed forecast on the ITV National Weather tonight, which I'm sure was much longer than usual
MD
mdtauk
SKYnews extended its News at Ten programme and the day's Hutton Recreation has been canceled so it can be seen tomorrow at 9:30am.

The Brent By-Election special is still happening 11:30pm
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A former member
c@t posted:
So, what are you suggesting, Larry?

That on TELEVISION news networks ignore PICTURES? Do you not think that Logie Baird would feel his contribution to society to be slightly undermined by that assertion?


I'm saying that news values should come before picture power.
Running orders should not be decided by which story has the best pictures. it should be which has the better news values.

Quote:

Are you suggesting that news networks ignore the fact that Dulles International Airport and Reagan National Airport have practically been shut down and around 1000 flights across the East Coast have been cancelled?


Dulles Airport, Reagan Airport... where the f*ck are they?
1000 flights... most of them internal! Very few people in the UK give a flying toss about disruption in the eastern USA, only those who were planning to fly there in the next few days

I'm not saying ignore it, I'm saying that it's not important enough to us in the UK to be top story on the highest rated news programme..... and definately not to get blanket coverage on Sky News.

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When the alternative is "more of Andrew Gilligan", "Iraq in 'still quite bad situation here' non-shocker" or "Jailed ex-Tory shocks nation with the remarkable discovery that prisons aren't nice places afterall" then I think there really was only one lead story for the Six O'clock News.


Strong winds hit US East Coast Shocker?
It happens about twice a year, it's not exactly an unusual occurance!
MD
MarkDC
i live in the suburbs of washington and the winds are strong but people hype up the situation so much. i havent lost power yet!!!
RE
Re-it-er-ate
Larry Scutta posted:

Strong winds hit US East Coast Shocker?
It happens about twice a year, it's not exactly an unusual occurance!

The Hutton Inquiry seems to be happening every day, so thats too bloody common. I wish the Inquirt would just be conducted in total media silence, and the report released to the media at the end.
ST
Still
I agree with Larry on this one. It just strikes me that News gatherers are losing sense of proportion when any vaguely big story comes along - like they have long ago got bored with long term issues such as Iraq or the Hutton Inquiry.

I think I'm correct in saying this is actually a pretty low scale hurricane. It's just that news channels jump on any sniff of America being disrupted by something. As such it gets blown out of all proportion.
CA
cat
Larry Scutta posted:
c@t posted:
So, what are you suggesting, Larry?

That on TELEVISION news networks ignore PICTURES? Do you not think that Logie Baird would feel his contribution to society to be slightly undermined by that assertion?


I'm saying that news values should come before picture power.
Running orders should not be decided by which story has the best pictures. it should be which has the better news values.

Quote:

Are you suggesting that news networks ignore the fact that Dulles International Airport and Reagan National Airport have practically been shut down and around 1000 flights across the East Coast have been cancelled?


Dulles Airport, Reagan Airport... where the f*ck are they?
1000 flights... most of them internal! Very few people in the UK give a flying toss about disruption in the eastern USA, only those who were planning to fly there in the next few days

I'm not saying ignore it, I'm saying that it's not important enough to us in the UK to be top story on the highest rated news programme..... and definately not to get blanket coverage on Sky News.

Quote:

When the alternative is "more of Andrew Gilligan", "Iraq in 'still quite bad situation here' non-shocker" or "Jailed ex-Tory shocks nation with the remarkable discovery that prisons aren't nice places afterall" then I think there really was only one lead story for the Six O'clock News.


Strong winds hit US East Coast Shocker?
It happens about twice a year, it's not exactly an unusual occurance!


Dulles International and Reagan National are in Washington.

I still disagree with your argument, Larry. I think you have this backward old-school News Directorate view at the BBC, so you'll be weeded out soon by the bosses, no doubt. You're not very en-vogue, so I hear.

And you've just shown that you don't understand the story, Larry. It's not "strong winds" it's a hurricane. Broadly speaking, a mix of rain and wind; it's not some random tornado. If you'd bothered to watch the Six O'clock News you'd know it hasn't been this bad for a number of years.

Even fewer people give a toss about what Andrew Gilligan had on his personal organiser. I know the BBC has great difficulty in tearing itself away from covering a public inquiry of its own making, but just for once I think it was justified.

News values and pictures are not mutally exclusive, Larry.

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