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Brekkie
I'd guess the next few weeks are quite crucial for Hollyoaks, which so far this year has been disapointing.

There has been some high points - such as the search for Tom Cunningham and the climax of the racist bullying storyline, but otherwise it's just plodded through the year.

At the end of October Hollyoaks will celebrate it's 10th birthday - and this autumn is supposed to be getting a major revamp with a number of characters going to make way for fresh blondes (sorry, blood!)

Actually - perhaps it's no co-incident that ratings fell with the number of blondes! There mainly brunette nowadays!

And also, with Family Affairs going Hollyoaks will have the opportunity to capture a whole new audience, though I think they would have to introduce some stronger older characters to capitalise on this.

The show also desperately needs new titles (most people in them are long gone). They won't arrive this week (weren't on E4 Friday), so perhaps may co-incide with Let Loose the week after - or perhaps even be delayed till the 10th birthday in October once the new students are in!

Anyway, moving on:

Hollyoaks: Crossing the Lines airs each night this week on C4 at 11pm, with date rape set to be at the centre of the storyline.

What I'm wondering though is how will this affect the First Look editions on E4. Will the episodes refer to the late-night editions, which wouldn't have aired if your watching on E4. The listings suggests no cross-over until Friday, so Thursdays E4 episode may be a spoiler.


The week after a new E4 spin-off Hollyoaks: Let Loose begins on Mondays at 9pm. Ben and Lisa are at the centre of this, moving away from Hollyoaks to live the city life. The thing is these characters are no where near as popular as they once were - and from the brief glimpses of the new characters set to join them, they don't seem that watchable either!



So it should be an interesting few months for Hollyoaks - and hopefully it'll come through it alot better.

It's easy to diss Hollyoaks - but as a regular viewer I would say when it's at it's best, it is far superior to the other soaps. The problem is though it's not been at it's best at all over recent months!

However, as the only British teen drama currently on TV it's got it's place!

Question: has anyone got the details of how many late-night spin-offs and videos there have been of Hollyoaks?

P.S. Noticed on the Mersey TV website that the next series of Grange Hill will premiere on the CBBC channel airing everynight from November, before airing in it's twice-weekly BBC1 slots early next year.
JE
Jez Founding member
Brekkie Boy posted:
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It's easy to diss Hollyoaks - but as a regular viewer I would say when it's at it's best, it is far superior to the other soaps. The problem is though it's not been at it's best at all over recent months!


Hollyoaks used to be my 2nd fave soap during 1999-2001 (after Corrie) and storylines at the time were superb. However I agree its not been at its best for quite some time, although I think the last few weeks have been much better with the storyline surrounding the deaths of Ali and Macki.

Im looking forward to the upcoming late night episodes - I cant believe that Andy rapes Danni, he seems like a nice guy, loves himself a bit but is very good looking.

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Question: has anyone got the details of how many late-night spin-offs and videos there have been of Hollyoaks?


Well the first Late Night Special was in March 2000 when Luke was raped, and Nikki and her boyfriend went to visit the wife of the man they killed.

Then we had Finn's stag night (Dec 2000), the Movin On series from 2001 which ended with Lewis's suicide, the one where Toby was killed (Oct/Nov 2003) and I think there was a 4 part last year as well.

There have been 2 videos I think - Off on One from 1998 and Indecent Behaviour from 2001.
BR
Brekkie
Jez posted:
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Question: has anyone got the details of how many late-night spin-offs and videos there have been of Hollyoaks?


Well the first Late Night Special was in March 2000 when Luke was raped, and Nikki and her boyfriend went to visit the wife of the man they killed.

Then we had Finn's stag night (Dec 2000), the Movin On series from 2001 which ended with Lewis's suicide, the one where Toby was killed (Oct/Nov 2003) and I think there was a 4 part last year as well.

There have been 2 videos I think - Off on One from 1998 and Indecent Behaviour from 2001.


Thanks. I thought they'd been more than that - Is Finn's stag-night "The Boys do Barca"?

The one last year was "After Hours", which aired over four nights. I think Indecent Behaviour was also shown as a late-night special - something ridiculous like a month after it came out on video.
They also had the psychic thing earlier this year.


It be great if in the run up to the 10th birthday E4 repeated some of these late-night specials after Let Loose on a Monday night, and perhaps some classic regular editions on weeknights after the 7pm "First Look" airing.


I think the birthday falls on 23rd October, which is a Sunday - so I guess we'll get a T4 special. I remember a few years ago they reshowed the first episode - with the first seven minutes or so having no vocab - just the theme!
JE
Jez Founding member
Brekkie Boy posted:
Jez posted:
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Question: has anyone got the details of how many late-night spin-offs and videos there have been of Hollyoaks?


Well the first Late Night Special was in March 2000 when Luke was raped, and Nikki and her boyfriend went to visit the wife of the man they killed.

Then we had Finn's stag night (Dec 2000), the Movin On series from 2001 which ended with Lewis's suicide, the one where Toby was killed (Oct/Nov 2003) and I think there was a 4 part last year as well.

There have been 2 videos I think - Off on One from 1998 and Indecent Behaviour from 2001.


Thanks. I thought they'd been more than that - Is Finn's stag-night "The Boys do Barca"?

The one last year was "After Hours", which aired over four nights. I think Indecent Behaviour was also shown as a late-night special - something ridiculous like a month after it came out on video.
They also had the psychic thing earlier this year.


It be great if in the run up to the 10th birthday E4 repeated some of these late-night specials after Let Loose on a Monday night, and perhaps some classic regular editions on weeknights after the 7pm "First Look" airing.


I think the birthday falls on 23rd October, which is a Sunday - so I guess we'll get a T4 special. I remember a few years ago they reshowed the first episode - with the first seven minutes or so having no vocab - just the theme!


Yes the stag night was called The Boys do Barca. The Movin On Series wasnt all that good IMO apart from the last couple of episodes when Lewis died. Im not sure about this one with Ben and Lisa as I dont particularly like either character but the good news is they are leaving after this I think.

It would be good if they show some old episodes for the 10th birthday - I remember when they repeated the first episode (was that for the 5th birthday in 2000?), Tony and Lucy were the only ones left from the original cast at the time and now Tony is the only one left. I liked Kurt, I couldnt believe it when they killed him off, off screen as well.

So do we know which characters have been axed? Apart from Ben and Lisa?
BR
Brekkie
Jez posted:
[Yes the stag night was called The Boys do Barca. The Movin On Series wasnt all that good IMO apart from the last couple of episodes when Lewis died. Im not sure about this one with Ben and Lisa as I dont particularly like either character but the good news is they are leaving after this I think.

It would be good if they show some old episodes for the 10th birthday - I remember when they repeated the first episode (was that for the 5th birthday in 2000?), Tony and Lucy were the only ones left from the original cast at the time and now Tony is the only one left. I liked Kurt, I couldnt believe it when they killed him off, off screen as well.

So do we know which characters have been axed? Apart from Ben and Lisa?


The only thing I remember about Movin' On is the great version of the theme tune, which then was toned down and replaced the original theme tune.

Can't quite recall when the first episode was shown - I have a feeling it was on T4's 1st Birthday and they screened the first episodes of alot of T4 shows - but that was in 1999 and it can't be 6 yrs ago! I'm not that old!!!!

As for the axe list - Cameron and Zara are mentioned at Digital Spy. We know Ali has gone - and perhaps Richard and Darlene will follow, while some spoilers suggest Justin gets done for murder - but Chris Fountain is widely regarded as one of the shows best actors.


We'll get some new students soon (I wonder if Andy will stick around?) and perhaps some new school kids seeing though the ones introduced last year have all been killed off or just disappeared (Candy, Paula, Nathan etc.)

Hopefully we'll get new titles too - but if the students are axed as quickly as last year they'll be out of date by Christmas. I understand them getting rid of the American, but the other two were OK - especially Bella who was just getting interesting before she went!

I think they need a new big central family like The Morgans and the Hunters were, and I guess the Taylor-Burtons and Owens are supposed to be now.

Talking of the Taylor Burtons - another miracle of the Hollyoaks property industry. Not only did the students flat completly renovate itself when Max moves in, the TBs house acquired an extra three bedrooms once Ben and co. moved out!
JE
Jez Founding member
I think your right about it being T4's first birthday.

The problem with having characters in the opening titles when you have such a high cast turnover is they need updating quite often. Hollyoaks havent changed the titles since the episode where Toby died, around November 2003, I remember because I saw Ellie on the new titles so it was obvious she wasnt going to die. The titles previous to the current ones had been around for about 2 years as well so I guess we are about due a new set. Maybe they will introduce a completely different style of titles and new theme music?

They seemed to write out a lot of characters this year without giving them a proper leaving storyline (Paula, Candy, Nathan, Zak, Bella, Kristian etc)
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Stuart
Jez posted:
Hollyoaks havent changed the titles since the episode where Toby died, around November 2003.....


I'm pretty sure the titles changed after Dan's death (although only slightly, and that was in the last 2 years IIRC.
JC
JCB
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It's easy to diss Hollyoaks


You're right., so here I go...

I'll admit from time to time Hollyoaks does deal with some good strong issues, but it's the acting that lets the show down...badly. It's appalling! All soaps are full of poor actors (that's why they're in soaps) but Hollyoaks is in a league of it's own. It's shocking
BR
Brekkie
JCB posted:
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It's easy to diss Hollyoaks


You're right., so here I go...

I'll admit from time to time Hollyoaks does deal with some good strong issues, but it's the acting that lets the show down...badly. It's appalling! All soaps are full of poor actors (that's why they're in soaps) but Hollyoaks is in a league of it's own. It's shocking


Of course Hollyoaks has some bad actors - but usually they don't last long! And I think we should remember some are there more for decoration than anything too!

Must say though, the one who played Basil last week was the best new actor they've had for ages! Laughing

The writing and direction though generally makes up for it!
BR
Brekkie
Must admit the late-night specials have been very disapointing so far - they are nothing more than fillers as we await the main storyline, and I think a one-off late night special could have done the job better!


The 6.30pm editions though with the Ali/Macki story continuing to play-out have been brilliant though!


P.S. Continuity error - in the 6.30pm editions Jack and Frankie are still on their honeymoon - but in the late-night episodes Jack has been serving behind the bar in the Dog!
JC
JCB
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Of course Hollyoaks has some bad actors - but usually they don't last long!


No...Hollyoaks is always badly acted, with the exception of the odd one or 2 - but they don't usually last long.
JO
john04
Brekkie Boy posted:
The week after a new E4 spin-off Hollyoaks: Let Loose begins on Mondays at 9pm. Ben and Lisa are at the centre of this, moving away from Hollyoaks to live the city life. The thing is these characters are no where near as popular as they once were - and from the brief glimpses of the new characters set to join them, they don't seem that watchable either!

Love the trailer C4 is running for the new E4 series. The Ben and Lisa story is unbelievable. I hear ONE of the aforementioned will be returning to Hollyoaks once Let Loose finishes.
Meanwhile, Gary Lucy (Luke Morgan) is to join The Bill as a new PC from November.

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