DA
Wasn't there a big to-do last time they tried filmising Casualty/Holby City?
It looked to me like it was shot with the "old" video look in mind, and only minimally treated afterwards to add the film effect.
David
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but the new "HD Film-type" picture, for the whole show, is not to say the least awful!!!!!!!!
Wasn't there a big to-do last time they tried filmising Casualty/Holby City?
It looked to me like it was shot with the "old" video look in mind, and only minimally treated afterwards to add the film effect.
David
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Oh dear, Diana Kyle strikes again! Yes, the same woman who brought filmic effect to Grange Hill has been lying in wait to introduce it to Holby!
Yes there was a hoo-ha when Casualty went filmic for a few weeks in 1994. Public opinion forced a switch back to standard VT look. Likewise with Emmerdale when Tricia was jilted at the altar. Even if Holby is now being filmed in HD, why is it not possible to retain a VT look?
Yes there was a hoo-ha when Casualty went filmic for a few weeks in 1994. Public opinion forced a switch back to standard VT look. Likewise with Emmerdale when Tricia was jilted at the altar. Even if Holby is now being filmed in HD, why is it not possible to retain a VT look?
DA
Is it definitely being shot in HD? It really had a shot-on-SD look to me, though i can't put my finger on exactly why.
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Even if Holby is now being filmed in HD, why is it not possible to retain a VT look?
Is it definitely being shot in HD? It really had a shot-on-SD look to me, though i can't put my finger on exactly why.
David
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Asa
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Holby City has certainly become a programme I'm more than happy to sit down and watch if it's on. Nice new titles - close to the original but with a bit more relevance!
It's a shame about the filmic though.Couldn't get used to the juddery and blurry feel of it - I watched back an episode from the other week and although it had that "real" look which probably isn't very sexy for the producers, it was far more watchable to me. A post on DS seems to suggest that's it's not being filmed in HD and so they've just gone for the bog standard (and badly done) filmic.
Seems I spoke too soon, they've now shaved 10secs off the credits and music but still seem to want to credit the same number of people so they whizz past way too quick, especially when stuck in that bloody box.
It's a shame about the filmic though.Couldn't get used to the juddery and blurry feel of it - I watched back an episode from the other week and although it had that "real" look which probably isn't very sexy for the producers, it was far more watchable to me. A post on DS seems to suggest that's it's not being filmed in HD and so they've just gone for the bog standard (and badly done) filmic.
Me - June 15th posted:
Interestingly, the credits still run for the same duration so it seems they're not being quite so strict about the 25-30secs limit.
Seems I spoke too soon, they've now shaved 10secs off the credits and music but still seem to want to credit the same number of people so they whizz past way too quick, especially when stuck in that bloody box.
IT
They are quite good but it does use parts of the original titles at the beginning albeit with orange casualty style flashes. I think they are a bit to bright though. At least thery didn't alter the music but they gave it a small remix. Love the glass effect (casualty 1998 anyone?).
TV
My guess is Diana Kyle has fallen into the trap of making a programme how she personally likes it (ie. filmic look), and not for the viewers. There is an explanation of the decision to go filmic on the official Holby site:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/holbycity/newlook.shtml
Now please explain someone, because I just don't get it. How is shooting with a filmic look and oppressive lighting making the show "modern"? It's actually one of the most retrograde steps a producer can take! Prior to the advent of colour, everything was filmed, and until the mid-80s many shows were still shooting exteriors on film. Seeing programmes move over to exterior VT such as Coronation Street and even Pipkins gave a much more alive, immediate "as if you are there" look to exterior filming.
The BBC web page insists "response has been favourable" - who wrote that, Alistair Campbell?
Asa posted:
It's a shame about the filmic though.Couldn't get used to the juddery and blurry feel of it - I watched back an episode from the other week and although it had that "real" look which probably isn't very sexy for the producers, it was far more watchable to me. A post on DS seems to suggest that's it's not being filmed in HD and so they've just gone for the bog standard (and badly done) filmic.
My guess is Diana Kyle has fallen into the trap of making a programme how she personally likes it (ie. filmic look), and not for the viewers. There is an explanation of the decision to go filmic on the official Holby site:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/holbycity/newlook.shtml
Now please explain someone, because I just don't get it. How is shooting with a filmic look and oppressive lighting making the show "modern"? It's actually one of the most retrograde steps a producer can take! Prior to the advent of colour, everything was filmed, and until the mid-80s many shows were still shooting exteriors on film. Seeing programmes move over to exterior VT such as Coronation Street and even Pipkins gave a much more alive, immediate "as if you are there" look to exterior filming.
The BBC web page insists "response has been favourable" - who wrote that, Alistair Campbell?
NG
noggin
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The irony is that a block of Holby was shot in HD 1080/50i (not sure if it was also edited in HD) a few years ago - long before BBC HD launched. This was done to trial HD production of a soap/serial type drama.
Because they used the 50i rather than 25p format it had the same fluid look as normal video and didn't stick out at all.
The current "film effect" on Holby looks pretty grim - whether it is being shot 25p or 50i and then converted or not. I used to watch if I surfed into it - but now I don't. It doesn't have the high quality "film" values of shows like ER or Heroes, but at least had a realistic feel when shot as normal video (like Casualty does).
Holby Blue was shot HD 1080/25p and looked a bit better - but again had that "distancing" effect that film effect adds - whereas the normal "The Bill" fluid video has a much more immediate feel.
Because they used the 50i rather than 25p format it had the same fluid look as normal video and didn't stick out at all.
The current "film effect" on Holby looks pretty grim - whether it is being shot 25p or 50i and then converted or not. I used to watch if I surfed into it - but now I don't. It doesn't have the high quality "film" values of shows like ER or Heroes, but at least had a realistic feel when shot as normal video (like Casualty does).
Holby Blue was shot HD 1080/25p and looked a bit better - but again had that "distancing" effect that film effect adds - whereas the normal "The Bill" fluid video has a much more immediate feel.