IS
Woah, I think you're over complicating it wildly.
Whatever happens, Northern Ireland will still be in the UK and under the juristriction of Ofcom so it'll be business as usual. The same for any other Ofcom licensed service in the UK.
A trade border between Great Britain and N Ireland wouldn't effect broadcasting. But as i explained on page 1 it's the border between the EU and the UK that could.
However getting round it could just be a case of a broadcaster having to obtain extra licenses in the countries they broadcast to, for example Channel 4 getting a license from the BAI to broadcast to Ireland
Northern Ireland will technically be in a funny position. Not physically part of the EU, in a customs union with the EU, and legally part of the UK with a population which overwhelmingly wants the facility to receive British radio and TV channels where the source of most of these channels is neither part of the EU nor in a customs union with the EU.
A Mainland based TV channel which is broadcast in Northern Ireland is not officially broadcasting to another EU country. The converse is also true.
Should the government go as far as striking a deal with the residents of Northern Ireland that if the hard border is located in the Irish sea then they will lose British radio and TV channels from terrestrial transmitters in Northern Ireland although they will continue to be available on satellite and by pointing an aerial at a transmitter on the mainland?
A Mainland based TV channel which is broadcast in Northern Ireland is not officially broadcasting to another EU country. The converse is also true.
Should the government go as far as striking a deal with the residents of Northern Ireland that if the hard border is located in the Irish sea then they will lose British radio and TV channels from terrestrial transmitters in Northern Ireland although they will continue to be available on satellite and by pointing an aerial at a transmitter on the mainland?
Woah, I think you're over complicating it wildly.
Whatever happens, Northern Ireland will still be in the UK and under the juristriction of Ofcom so it'll be business as usual. The same for any other Ofcom licensed service in the UK.
A trade border between Great Britain and N Ireland wouldn't effect broadcasting. But as i explained on page 1 it's the border between the EU and the UK that could.
However getting round it could just be a case of a broadcaster having to obtain extra licenses in the countries they broadcast to, for example Channel 4 getting a license from the BAI to broadcast to Ireland
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A former member
Never stopped the people in Holland.
IS
The Channel Islands probably a better example, they aren't in the UK or the EU
Never stopped the people in Holland.
The Channel Islands probably a better example, they aren't in the UK or the EU
KE
The Channel Islands probably a better example, they aren't in the UK or the EU
Which is also the case for the Isle of Man.
Never stopped the people in Holland.
The Channel Islands probably a better example, they aren't in the UK or the EU
Which is also the case for the Isle of Man.
JK
Woah, I think you're over complicating it wildly.
Whatever happens, Northern Ireland will still be in the UK and under the juristriction of Ofcom so it'll be business as usual. The same for any other Ofcom licensed service in the UK.
A trade border between Great Britain and N Ireland wouldn't effect broadcasting. But as i explained on page 1 it's the border between the EU and the UK that could.
However getting round it could just be a case of a broadcaster having to obtain extra licenses in the countries they broadcast to, for example Channel 4 getting a license from the BAI to broadcast to Ireland
I do not see how broadcasting UK channels to the Irish republic is a thing - am I missing something here, or have I missed what is being explained?
Northern Ireland will technically be in a funny position. Not physically part of the EU, in a customs union with the EU, and legally part of the UK with a population which overwhelmingly wants the facility to receive British radio and TV channels where the source of most of these channels is neither part of the EU nor in a customs union with the EU.
A Mainland based TV channel which is broadcast in Northern Ireland is not officially broadcasting to another EU country. The converse is also true.
Should the government go as far as striking a deal with the residents of Northern Ireland that if the hard border is located in the Irish sea then they will lose British radio and TV channels from terrestrial transmitters in Northern Ireland although they will continue to be available on satellite and by pointing an aerial at a transmitter on the mainland?
A Mainland based TV channel which is broadcast in Northern Ireland is not officially broadcasting to another EU country. The converse is also true.
Should the government go as far as striking a deal with the residents of Northern Ireland that if the hard border is located in the Irish sea then they will lose British radio and TV channels from terrestrial transmitters in Northern Ireland although they will continue to be available on satellite and by pointing an aerial at a transmitter on the mainland?
Woah, I think you're over complicating it wildly.
Whatever happens, Northern Ireland will still be in the UK and under the juristriction of Ofcom so it'll be business as usual. The same for any other Ofcom licensed service in the UK.
A trade border between Great Britain and N Ireland wouldn't effect broadcasting. But as i explained on page 1 it's the border between the EU and the UK that could.
However getting round it could just be a case of a broadcaster having to obtain extra licenses in the countries they broadcast to, for example Channel 4 getting a license from the BAI to broadcast to Ireland
I do not see how broadcasting UK channels to the Irish republic is a thing - am I missing something here, or have I missed what is being explained?
SP
It's a reciprocal thing for the PSBs, I think - eg RTE and TG4 are on Freeview in NI, the BBC is on Saorview in the Republic. In fact TG4 being available in NI is specified in the Good Friday Agreement.
Other UK channels being availabe in the RoI is just a commercial decision by the broadcaster concerned, I think.
I do not see how broadcasting UK channels to the Irish republic is a thing - am I missing something here, or have I missed what is being explained?
It's a reciprocal thing for the PSBs, I think - eg RTE and TG4 are on Freeview in NI, the BBC is on Saorview in the Republic. In fact TG4 being available in NI is specified in the Good Friday Agreement.
Other UK channels being availabe in the RoI is just a commercial decision by the broadcaster concerned, I think.
LL
Other UK channels being availabe in the RoI is just a commercial decision by the broadcaster concerned, I think.
Yes, the likes of BBC Four and CBBC/CBeebies are on the various platforms under a carriage agreement with BBC Worldwide. It's a similar agreement they have with other European platforms where they supply the UK domestic channels, which is why these days it's on the likes of Zattoo and Teleboy in Switzerland as well as cable providers. I believe it's the same agreement these days for Belgium and The Netherlands where they legally can provide those BBC channels instead of lifting it from across the North Sea.
London Lite
Founding member
Other UK channels being availabe in the RoI is just a commercial decision by the broadcaster concerned, I think.
Yes, the likes of BBC Four and CBBC/CBeebies are on the various platforms under a carriage agreement with BBC Worldwide. It's a similar agreement they have with other European platforms where they supply the UK domestic channels, which is why these days it's on the likes of Zattoo and Teleboy in Switzerland as well as cable providers. I believe it's the same agreement these days for Belgium and The Netherlands where they legally can provide those BBC channels instead of lifting it from across the North Sea.
RI
Back in the 1980s Unionists in Northern Ireland would tell Republicans that they have a choice between a United Ireland or Eastenders!
Do you read back any of the unsubstantiated crap you write before posting?
I don't see what difference anything you've written makes to whether there's a border in the middle of the sea or not. Unless they're going to build a physical border made out of blue bricks and is at least the height of the tallest UK transmitter (Skelton Mast in Cumbria at 365m), it won't be an issue.
I don't see what difference anything you've written makes to whether there's a border in the middle of the sea or not. Unless they're going to build a physical border made out of blue bricks and is at least the height of the tallest UK transmitter (Skelton Mast in Cumbria at 365m), it won't be an issue.
Back in the 1980s Unionists in Northern Ireland would tell Republicans that they have a choice between a United Ireland or Eastenders!
IS
I do not see how broadcasting UK channels to the Irish republic is a thing - am I missing something here, or have I missed what is being explained?
Eh how can you not understand that is a thing? Do you think that only Irish originated channels broadcast to Ireland?
The Sky platform is available in Ireland, the majority of the channels available to viewers in Ireland in Sky are UK channels. There are also cable companies in Ireland who carry channels from the UK. A lot of the bigger channels (those owned by Sky and UKTV for example) are specific versions for the Republic of Ireland, but they're licensed by the UK regulator Ofcom
That's fine now as both the ROI and the UK are in the EU and the rules are that as long channels are licensed in one EU country they can broadcast to any other.
Spin forward to March 30th 2019 and if the UK does leave the EU on that day you've got channels licensed in a non EU country which will now potentially be illegally broadcasting. The likes of ITV, Sky and UKTV will have to be licensed by the BAI too. The same goes for channels from the UK that broadcast to Italy, France, Spain, Germany etc, they could be illegally broadcasting to their respective countries
I do not see how broadcasting UK channels to the Irish republic is a thing - am I missing something here, or have I missed what is being explained?
Eh how can you not understand that is a thing? Do you think that only Irish originated channels broadcast to Ireland?
The Sky platform is available in Ireland, the majority of the channels available to viewers in Ireland in Sky are UK channels. There are also cable companies in Ireland who carry channels from the UK. A lot of the bigger channels (those owned by Sky and UKTV for example) are specific versions for the Republic of Ireland, but they're licensed by the UK regulator Ofcom
That's fine now as both the ROI and the UK are in the EU and the rules are that as long channels are licensed in one EU country they can broadcast to any other.
Spin forward to March 30th 2019 and if the UK does leave the EU on that day you've got channels licensed in a non EU country which will now potentially be illegally broadcasting. The likes of ITV, Sky and UKTV will have to be licensed by the BAI too. The same goes for channels from the UK that broadcast to Italy, France, Spain, Germany etc, they could be illegally broadcasting to their respective countries
IS
Incidently, to see the scale of the issue here is a list of the cable/satellite channels licensed by Ofcom. Note how many aren't aimed at the UK, including all those suffixed ROI
http://static.ofcom.org.uk/static/radiolicensing/html/tv/cs/cabandsat-main.htm
http://static.ofcom.org.uk/static/radiolicensing/html/tv/cs/cabandsat-main.htm