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A hard border in the Irish Sea

How will it affect broadcasting? (November 2018)

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Riaz
If a hard border is located in the Irish Sea between the Mainland and Northern Ireland then what will its effect be on broadcasting - if any? Will Mainland based companies be allowed to continue offering their channels from transmitters located in Northern Ireland unrestricted or will this violate certain EU trade legislation?
JM
JamesM0984
I doubt much will change.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
I think it was mentioned previously some European broadcasters that broadcast from the UK may have to consider (key word) moving but that was only a theory.

Anyway I doubt the presence of a border in the middle of the sea will affect much; its no different to Astra satellite transmissions that are tightly aimed at the UK yet you can still get them in France and Spain if you have a big enough dish.
TI
tightrope78
What a truly ridiculous thread! An iron curtain across Europe didn't stop Western TV reaching the Eastern bloc. A so-called border in the Irish Sea won't make a blind bit of difference.
IS
Inspector Sands
There could be issues with licensing should there be no deal. At the moment a channel only has to be licensed in one EU country to be able to broadcast to any other. So Discovery Italy for example can hold an Ofcom license and broadcast from London. And a channel originating in France can be licensed in France and broadcast to the UK

The same for Ireland, the Irish versions of UK channels are licensed in the UK not by the Irish equivalent of Ofcom. If/when we're out the EU they might well need to be, the Irish broadcasting regulators are under no obligation to honour a non-EU broadcasting license

Recently Sky have written to broadcasters to sort out their plans for post-Brexit licensing. If a channel isn't licensed to broadcast to the UK or Ireland then they'll have to take it off their platform.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/oct/18/sky-warns-disney-and-discovery-of-no-deal-brexit-blackout
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 20 November 2018 5:27pm - 2 times in total
IS
Inspector Sands
What a truly ridiculous thread! An iron curtain across Europe didn't stop Western TV reaching the Eastern bloc. A so-called border in the Irish Sea won't make a blind bit of difference.

Nothing will stop radio waves crossing a border, but that's not what the issue is. The regulatory framework for broadcasting across borders could well be affected - channels from the UK could well need another license to transmit to Ireland.


Of course this is a legal issue that could probably be easily sorted.... but there's not long left to sort it and if we go over the metaphorical cliffedge it will be a long way down the priority list,
BR
Brekkie
Riaz posted:
If a hard border is located in the Irish Sea between the Mainland and Northern Ireland then what will its effect be on broadcasting - if any?

This Morning will have to find a new Friday co-host. Wink
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Riaz
Northern Ireland will technically be in a funny position. Not physically part of the EU, in a customs union with the EU, and legally part of the UK with a population which overwhelmingly wants the facility to receive British radio and TV channels where the source of most of these channels is neither part of the EU nor in a customs union with the EU.

A Mainland based TV channel which is broadcast in Northern Ireland is not officially broadcasting to another EU country. The converse is also true.

Should the government go as far as striking a deal with the residents of Northern Ireland that if the hard border is located in the Irish sea then they will lose British radio and TV channels from terrestrial transmitters in Northern Ireland although they will continue to be available on satellite and by pointing an aerial at a transmitter on the mainland?
TI
tightrope78
Riaz posted:
Should the government go as far as striking a deal with the residents of Northern Ireland that if the hard border is located in the Irish sea then they will lose British radio and TV channels from terrestrial transmitters in Northern Ireland although they will continue to be available on satellite and by pointing an aerial at a transmitter on the mainland?


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NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Riaz posted:
Should the government go as far as striking a deal with the residents of Northern Ireland that if the hard border is located in the Irish sea then they will lose British radio and TV channels from terrestrial transmitters in Northern Ireland although they will continue to be available on satellite and by pointing an aerial at a transmitter on the mainland?


Do you read back any of the unsubstantiated crap you write before posting?

I don't see what difference anything you've written makes to whether there's a border in the middle of the sea or not. Unless they're going to build a physical border made out of blue bricks and is at least the height of the tallest UK transmitter (Skelton Mast in Cumbria at 365m), it won't be an issue.
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EL
elmarko
Not for viewers, sure, but for broadcasters under licensing?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
What a truly ridiculous thread! An iron curtain across Europe didn't stop Western TV reaching the Eastern bloc. A so-called border in the Irish Sea won't make a blind bit of difference.


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