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I heard it, in the announcement before Trisha.
"It's our birthday, ITV is 48 years old today" ...and I was thinking well, not exactly but yeah...
catlitter posted:
just thought I'd mention it - even though its nearly over - ITV launched 48 years ago on the 22nd September. A friend told me the announcer mentioned it at the start of the day - anyone hear it?
I heard it, in the announcement before Trisha.
"It's our birthday, ITV is 48 years old today" ...and I was thinking well, not exactly but yeah...
:-(
No he shouldn't - as you already said, it's off topic - and as such should've been in a new thread at Metropol247's The Lounge, not a new thread here.
A former member
Corin posted:
Should you have not started a separate thread to discuss your birthday?
:-(
Incorrect again
I always thought WWN - Wales West and North (Teledu Cymru) was the last region to launch. The Presely transmitter opened on 14 September 1962 followed by Arfon on 9/11/62 and Moel -y-Parc on 28/1/63. Back then Wales had two franchise regions:
i) South Wales and West of England
ii) North and West Wales.
However the franchise areas were merged due to fanancial reasons. Putting it bluntley WWN went bust and TWW took over.
I may be wrong, but I'm sure that I read (or heard) somewhere, that the ITA either
i) offered North Wales to Granada as an option but Granada refused
ii) that Granada had actually offered to take over North Wales but lost out to TWW or
iii) The ITA invited both Granada and TWW to take over the franchise and TWW won (in simple language)
Is this correct or are they just Television myths.
A former member
William Neale posted:
Digifiend posted:
Hmm. Channel TV was the last region to launch - in 1970.
I always thought WWN - Wales West and North (Teledu Cymru) was the last region to launch. The Presely transmitter opened on 14 September 1962 followed by Arfon on 9/11/62 and Moel -y-Parc on 28/1/63. Back then Wales had two franchise regions:
i) South Wales and West of England
ii) North and West Wales.
However the franchise areas were merged due to fanancial reasons. Putting it bluntley WWN went bust and TWW took over.
I may be wrong, but I'm sure that I read (or heard) somewhere, that the ITA either
i) offered North Wales to Granada as an option but Granada refused
ii) that Granada had actually offered to take over North Wales but lost out to TWW or
iii) The ITA invited both Granada and TWW to take over the franchise and TWW won (in simple language)
Is this correct or are they just Television myths.
TT
Incorrect again
I always thought WWN - Wales West and North (Teledu Cymru) was the last region to launch. The Presely transmitter opened on 14 September 1962 followed by Arfon on 9/11/62 and Moel -y-Parc on 28/1/63. Back then Wales had two franchise regions:
i) South Wales and West of England
ii) North and West Wales.
However the franchise areas were merged due to fanancial reasons. Putting it bluntley WWN went bust and TWW took over.
I may be wrong, but I'm sure that I read (or heard) somewhere, that the ITA either
i) offered North Wales to Granada as an option but Granada refused
ii) that Granada had actually offered to take over North Wales but lost out to TWW or
iii) The ITA invited both Granada and TWW to take over the franchise and TWW won (in simple language)
Is this correct or are they just Television myths.
I think that TWW were offered the WWN franchise at a bargain price. Granada weren't in the running I think, part of the reason that WWN went bust was that with WWN on the air, Granada felt no need to provide Welsh programming (and remember that they covered part of North Wales), and that meant that WWN had to spend more money than expected on Welsh programming, of which they had to transmit a certain amount as part of winning their franchise. That and by that time arials were already pointing to Granada's rather than WWN's transmitters.
Aberoutsidehalf posted:
William Neale posted:
Digifiend posted:
Hmm. Channel TV was the last region to launch - in 1970.
I always thought WWN - Wales West and North (Teledu Cymru) was the last region to launch. The Presely transmitter opened on 14 September 1962 followed by Arfon on 9/11/62 and Moel -y-Parc on 28/1/63. Back then Wales had two franchise regions:
i) South Wales and West of England
ii) North and West Wales.
However the franchise areas were merged due to fanancial reasons. Putting it bluntley WWN went bust and TWW took over.
I may be wrong, but I'm sure that I read (or heard) somewhere, that the ITA either
i) offered North Wales to Granada as an option but Granada refused
ii) that Granada had actually offered to take over North Wales but lost out to TWW or
iii) The ITA invited both Granada and TWW to take over the franchise and TWW won (in simple language)
Is this correct or are they just Television myths.
I think that TWW were offered the WWN franchise at a bargain price. Granada weren't in the running I think, part of the reason that WWN went bust was that with WWN on the air, Granada felt no need to provide Welsh programming (and remember that they covered part of North Wales), and that meant that WWN had to spend more money than expected on Welsh programming, of which they had to transmit a certain amount as part of winning their franchise. That and by that time arials were already pointing to Granada's rather than WWN's transmitters.
TC
The complex political situation surrounding the failure of WWN (aka Teledu Cymru) is dealt with in one of Bernard Sendell's volumes, but basically TWW had to take the franchise over because it was politically essential that the station transmitted the maximum number of Welsh language programmes.
WWN was the last of the first ITV licencees, but of course Yorkshire, Thames, LWT, Harlech, TVS. TSW, Central, Carlton, Meridian and Westcountry came much later.
ITV (i.e. Independent Television) is certainly 48 years old, but the ITV Network could not be said to have come into existence until Lichfield opened.
WWN was the last of the first ITV licencees, but of course Yorkshire, Thames, LWT, Harlech, TVS. TSW, Central, Carlton, Meridian and Westcountry came much later.
ITV (i.e. Independent Television) is certainly 48 years old, but the ITV Network could not be said to have come into existence until Lichfield opened.