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Greg Dyke resigns as BBC Director General

(January 2004)

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Corin
Marcus posted:
Everyone at the BBC has Political opinions, but they put those aside when they do the job.

Things must have changed then at the BBC, because whenever Michael Cooke was on the air, or whenever Vincent Hannah or Vincent Kane was doing an interview, it was patently obvious to all as to which political party their loyalties lay, and it was not the Labour party.
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A former member
Corin posted:
Marcus posted:
Everyone at the BBC has Political opinions, but they put those aside when they do the job.

Things must have changed then at the BBC, because whenever Michael Cooke was on the air, or whenever Vincent Hannah or Vincent Kane was doing an interview, it was patently obvious to all as to which political party their loyalties lay, and it was not the Labour party.


Journalistic integrity and objectivity only become issues when the journalist doesn't concur with the Tories, the City and/or MI5. Otherwise such manifestations of bias are merely "personality" meant to "enliven" the "discourse". Wink

I wonder if anyone could have gotten away with calling Churchill or Eden a liar? All things considered, Snow was rather lucky when he questioned the verity of the government's claims in 1982 during the Falklands conflict. But that might be because the Blair government has been better at handling evidence of scandal than the Thatcher government was.
MA
Marcus Founding member
Corin posted:
Marcus posted:
Everyone at the BBC has Political opinions, but they put those aside when they do the job.

Things must have changed then at the BBC, because whenever Michael Cooke was on the air, or whenever Vincent Hannah or Vincent Kane was doing an interview, it was patently obvious to all as to which political party their loyalties lay, and it was not the Labour party.


Rubbish. How do you know which way these people voted.

You have fallen into the same trap. Assuming hard questioning shows support for a cause.

Usually you will find interviewers are harder on those they support in order to prove a lack of bias. Some suggest that is what got the Labour supporting Dyke and Davies in so much trouble.
MA
Marcus Founding member
Phileas Fogg posted:
Corin posted:
Marcus posted:
Everyone at the BBC has Political opinions, but they put those aside when they do the job.

Things must have changed then at the BBC, because whenever Michael Cooke was on the air, or whenever Vincent Hannah or Vincent Kane was doing an interview, it was patently obvious to all as to which political party their loyalties lay, and it was not the Labour party.


Journalistic integrity and objectivity only become issues when the journalist doesn't concur with the Tories, the City and/or MI5. Otherwise such manifestations of bias are merely "personality" meant to "enliven" the "discourse". Wink

I wonder if anyone could have gotten away with calling Churchill or Eden a liar? All things considered, Snow was rather lucky when he questioned the verity of the government's claims in 1982 during the Falklands conflict. But that might be because the Blair government has been better at handling evidence of scandal than the Thatcher government was.


Hardly. Blairs government has been one of the worst ever at handling information. They are so obsessed with spin that they have lowered the publics trust in them and Politicians generally to an all time low. Anyone who can turn full victory in a judicial report into a situation where the are losing the argument in polls by 9-1 is truly disastrous.
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Corin
Marcus posted:
Rubbish. How do you know which way these people voted.


From Hansard,
<http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.UK/pa/cm199596/cmhansrd/vo951204/debtext/51204-21.htm>

Quote:
Mr. Roy Hughes (Newport, East) stated:
On Sunday nights over recent weeks, BBC Wales has been running a series of programmes about the state of Wales after 16 years of Conservative government. It is known as the "Kane" programme, because that is the name of its distinguished presenter, Mr. Vincent Kane, who has not exactly made a reputation for himself as a Labour supporter.


From the BBC its-self,
<http://news.bbc.co.UK/2/hi/talking_point/1535440.stm>

Quote:
Years ago the late Vincent Hannah, journalist and BBC reporter was an active participant on the CompuServe message UK politics forum
Guy Chapman, UK


As for Michael Cooke, if you never heard his show on BBC Radio Sheffield, then you cannot appreciate the way in which his support for the policies of the Conservative Party were indicated.
MA
Marcus Founding member
Corin posted:
Marcus posted:
Rubbish. How do you know which way these people voted.


From Hansard,
<http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.UK/pa/cm199596/cmhansrd/vo951204/debtext/51204-21.htm>

Quote:
Mr. Roy Hughes (Newport, East) stated:
On Sunday nights over recent weeks, BBC Wales has been running a series of programmes about the state of Wales after 16 years of Conservative government. It is known as the "Kane" programme, because that is the name of its distinguished presenter, Mr. Vincent Kane, who has not exactly made a reputation for himself as a Labour supporter.


What is that supposed to prove, apart from my point about how politicians always believe that anyone questioning their actions supports the other side.

I repeat How do you Know what these people voted?
LO
Londoner
Those who were angered by the Fox News John Gibson editorial might be interested in Vincent Graff's column in today's Independent

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/media/story.jsp?story=487190
DA
DAS Founding member
Now you've reminded me and just in case anybody's bothered...

I've received NO reply from Sky News
I've received NO reply from Fox News

Did I expect that I hear you ask?
CO
Corin
From <http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/media/story.jsp?story=487190>

Vincent Graff posted:
Gibson, who sports a bright white bouffant hairstyle that would require planning permission anywhere outside New York City

Is it appropriate for journalists to attack the personal appearance of their colleagues?
LO
Londoner

You forgot to upper-case the UK in the domain

(Why do you do that, by the way?)
CO
Corin
OOPS, I am getting careless - when domain names were first introduced, it was customary to denote top level domain names in upper case, viz .EDU, .COM, .MIL, .GOV, .NET, .ORG.
LO
Londoner
But we are in 2004. Why do you seek to maintain this custom?

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