KA
DAMN! Missed it AGAIN! That's the one Jeremy Clarkson presents isn't it? Repeat in the offing, does anyone know?
Katherine
Founding member
Hymagumba posted:
I would have thought with the repeat of the Brunel Great Britons show they would have removed or blacked out the phone number/web address. Does this problem affect the repeats on UK History aswell?
DAMN! Missed it AGAIN! That's the one Jeremy Clarkson presents isn't it? Repeat in the offing, does anyone know?
:-(
A former member
If you're quick it's still on.
It does seem strange that the phone number is still there, normally the BBC is carefull about that sort of thing.
I do hope they have got a clean version without the voting details, such a waste of a great programme if they haven't
It does seem strange that the phone number is still there, normally the BBC is carefull about that sort of thing.
I do hope they have got a clean version without the voting details, such a waste of a great programme if they haven't
WI
Agreed, though I'd rather watch it like this than with a big black block pasted over the top or a caption for stupid people every 5 minutes saying 'Voting lines have now closed'.
Some great camerawork on this - how come they manage to get footage of trains going through countryside at high speed to look so steady when live news footage from helicopters is constantly wobbling about?
william
Founding member
Larry Scutta posted:
If you're quick it's still on.
It does seem strange that the phone number is still there, normally the BBC is carefull about that sort of thing.
I do hope they have got a clean version without the voting details, such a waste of a great programme if they haven't
It does seem strange that the phone number is still there, normally the BBC is carefull about that sort of thing.
I do hope they have got a clean version without the voting details, such a waste of a great programme if they haven't
Agreed, though I'd rather watch it like this than with a big black block pasted over the top or a caption for stupid people every 5 minutes saying 'Voting lines have now closed'.
Some great camerawork on this - how come they manage to get footage of trains going through countryside at high speed to look so steady when live news footage from helicopters is constantly wobbling about?
NG
Agreed, though I'd rather watch it like this than with a big black block pasted over the top or a caption for stupid people every 5 minutes saying 'Voting lines have now closed'.
Some great camerawork on this - how come they manage to get footage of trains going through countryside at high speed to look so steady when live news footage from helicopters is constantly wobbling about?
News footage from Helicopters isn't always wobbly - anyone who saw the Concorde stuff will know this!
The difference is how the material is shot - the wobbly stuff is normally shot by a cameraman just sitting in a normal helicopter, using a normal broadcast shoulder mounted camcorder.
The steady stuff is shot using a special mounting - where a remotely controllable camera is mounted in a gyrostabilised "ball" outside the helicopter. The gyro mounting counteracts most of the movement of the helicopter - giving a steady shot. The engineering required is quite impressive - as the lenses are usually large and heavy, and as you zoom in and out their centres of gravity change - so there have to be counterweights that also move to counterbalance this.
If News can plan coverage that needs a helicopter - for a special event - then they will usually hire a stabilised mounting. However if it is a news reactive event - then they will just hire the nearest helicopter (that they can legally use - the safety rules about aerial filming are quite strict) and send a normal news camera and operator up - as the most important thing in these cases is to get the pictures back.
Of course in the US where some local stations just have wall-to-wall local news (and "if it bleeds, it leads" news values) the richer stations have their own helicopters with gyro-mounts and live links permanently hired... For those "oh so interesting" aerial shots of car accidents...
noggin
Founding member
william posted:
Larry Scutta posted:
If you're quick it's still on.
It does seem strange that the phone number is still there, normally the BBC is carefull about that sort of thing.
I do hope they have got a clean version without the voting details, such a waste of a great programme if they haven't
It does seem strange that the phone number is still there, normally the BBC is carefull about that sort of thing.
I do hope they have got a clean version without the voting details, such a waste of a great programme if they haven't
Agreed, though I'd rather watch it like this than with a big black block pasted over the top or a caption for stupid people every 5 minutes saying 'Voting lines have now closed'.
Some great camerawork on this - how come they manage to get footage of trains going through countryside at high speed to look so steady when live news footage from helicopters is constantly wobbling about?
News footage from Helicopters isn't always wobbly - anyone who saw the Concorde stuff will know this!
The difference is how the material is shot - the wobbly stuff is normally shot by a cameraman just sitting in a normal helicopter, using a normal broadcast shoulder mounted camcorder.
The steady stuff is shot using a special mounting - where a remotely controllable camera is mounted in a gyrostabilised "ball" outside the helicopter. The gyro mounting counteracts most of the movement of the helicopter - giving a steady shot. The engineering required is quite impressive - as the lenses are usually large and heavy, and as you zoom in and out their centres of gravity change - so there have to be counterweights that also move to counterbalance this.
If News can plan coverage that needs a helicopter - for a special event - then they will usually hire a stabilised mounting. However if it is a news reactive event - then they will just hire the nearest helicopter (that they can legally use - the safety rules about aerial filming are quite strict) and send a normal news camera and operator up - as the most important thing in these cases is to get the pictures back.
Of course in the US where some local stations just have wall-to-wall local news (and "if it bleeds, it leads" news values) the richer stations have their own helicopters with gyro-mounts and live links permanently hired... For those "oh so interesting" aerial shots of car accidents...
:-(
A former member
So the BBC One balloons were filmed from a specially mounted camera in the helicopter?
I've always wondered how the balloons shots were so steady and smooth. The same for the shots of the countryside in Great Britons.
Police helicopters use those cameras at the front of the helicopter housed in those circular casings - and yet the picture is still wobbly!
I've always wondered how the balloons shots were so steady and smooth. The same for the shots of the countryside in Great Britons.
Police helicopters use those cameras at the front of the helicopter housed in those circular casings - and yet the picture is still wobbly!
:-(
A former member
Some of the clips you see on TV can be ten years old when gyrostabilised cameras were quite basic. Also the police units tend to have a FLIR (forward looking infra-red) system mounted in the same pod and a less capable camera than the film/TV units.
I've also seen a radio controlled helicopter on ebay that the seller claimed to was used only once for a BBC documentary. It didn't include the camera or transmitter but did include the mounts.
Also, for those interested it is apparently pretty simple to receive the pictures from the microwave downlinks from the helicopters (although pretty illegal):
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pjmarsh/sband.htm
Gareth
I've also seen a radio controlled helicopter on ebay that the seller claimed to was used only once for a BBC documentary. It didn't include the camera or transmitter but did include the mounts.
Also, for those interested it is apparently pretty simple to receive the pictures from the microwave downlinks from the helicopters (although pretty illegal):
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pjmarsh/sband.htm
Gareth