MA
I know what you mean and one example I can remember is that a bully called Wayne stopped being a bully in either the 1995 or 1996 series and he was later an anti-bullying counsellor. You couldn't image Gripper Stebson changing his ways
I’ve always said that the early years of Grange Hill (1978-1989) attempted to show comprehensive school life as it was. After that, they began to show school life as they thought it should be - more politically correct storylines etc.
I know what you mean and one example I can remember is that a bully called Wayne stopped being a bully in either the 1995 or 1996 series and he was later an anti-bullying counsellor. You couldn't image Gripper Stebson changing his ways
SI
Seems strange (but good) we’re having such a big discussion on what effectively was a kids tv show. It’s a such a shame nowadays kids tv is pretty much non existent.
Not wishing to veer off topic but the likes of Grange Hill, Children’s Ward, Mike & Angelo nothing like it anymore. Can’t see us talking about any of today’s stuff in 10-20 years time!
Not wishing to veer off topic but the likes of Grange Hill, Children’s Ward, Mike & Angelo nothing like it anymore. Can’t see us talking about any of today’s stuff in 10-20 years time!
TV
We're not going to, because we don't watch it. I'm sure the 10 year olds of today will be talking on forums about CBBC in the 2010s and 2020s.
Seems strange (but good) we’re having such a big discussion on what effectively was a kids tv show. It’s a such a shame nowadays kids tv is pretty much non existent.
Not wishing to veer off topic but the likes of Grange Hill, Children’s Ward, Mike & Angelo nothing like it anymore. Can’t see us talking about any of today’s stuff in 10-20 years time!
Not wishing to veer off topic but the likes of Grange Hill, Children’s Ward, Mike & Angelo nothing like it anymore. Can’t see us talking about any of today’s stuff in 10-20 years time!
We're not going to, because we don't watch it. I'm sure the 10 year olds of today will be talking on forums about CBBC in the 2010s and 2020s.
TV
They went from 1993, with series 1, to 1999, finishing with series 16, when the BBC lost the rights to the old episodes. I don't know whether they have the rights again now, or UKTV still have them.
How long did the reruns air for? There is an episode from the late 80s Chicken Man titles which refers to the current series running in the week, so they must have got through most of the 80s.
They went from 1993, with series 1, to 1999, finishing with series 16, when the BBC lost the rights to the old episodes. I don't know whether they have the rights again now, or UKTV still have them.
RW
Looking at Genome, it seems that, surprisingly, they got as far as 1993. This appears to be where the Sunday morning 'classic' repeats came to an end, in March 1999: https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/323c5a83c571434aab4577dd22cf908c
Robert Williams
Founding member
How long did the reruns air for? There is an episode from the late 80s Chicken Man titles which refers to the current series running in the week, so they must have got through most of the 80s.
Looking at Genome, it seems that, surprisingly, they got as far as 1993. This appears to be where the Sunday morning 'classic' repeats came to an end, in March 1999: https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/323c5a83c571434aab4577dd22cf908c
JA
They went from 1993, with series 1, to 1999, finishing with series 16, when the BBC lost the rights to the old episodes. I don't know whether they have the rights again now, or UKTV still have them.
I'm suprised the BBC could "lose" the rights, seeing as it was their own show. I can't think of any other shows the BBC have been unable to repeat while UKTV has been showing them, countless shows have aired on the BBC and UKTV in parelell. I guess the Mersey Television series could be a different story when it comes to who has the rights, but they didn't take over production until 2003.
The CBBC channel did repeat the 1998-2002 series (as well as the equivalent series of Byker Grove) in the early 00s.
How long did the reruns air for? There is an episode from the late 80s Chicken Man titles which refers to the current series running in the week, so they must have got through most of the 80s.
They went from 1993, with series 1, to 1999, finishing with series 16, when the BBC lost the rights to the old episodes. I don't know whether they have the rights again now, or UKTV still have them.
I'm suprised the BBC could "lose" the rights, seeing as it was their own show. I can't think of any other shows the BBC have been unable to repeat while UKTV has been showing them, countless shows have aired on the BBC and UKTV in parelell. I guess the Mersey Television series could be a different story when it comes to who has the rights, but they didn't take over production until 2003.
The CBBC channel did repeat the 1998-2002 series (as well as the equivalent series of Byker Grove) in the early 00s.
NJ
I think this sort of thing has happened before, didn't the cast members of Monty Python effectively end up with ownership of their Flying Circus show/episodes even though they were made by the BBC?
Neil Jones
Founding member
I'm suprised the BBC could "lose" the rights, seeing as it was their own show.
I think this sort of thing has happened before, didn't the cast members of Monty Python effectively end up with ownership of their Flying Circus show/episodes even though they were made by the BBC?
JO
What we liked as kids isn't going to be the same as what kids like today.
Seems strange (but good) we’re having such a big discussion on what effectively was a kids tv show. It’s a such a shame nowadays kids tv is pretty much non existent.
Not wishing to veer off topic but the likes of Grange Hill, Children’s Ward, Mike & Angelo nothing like it anymore. Can’t see us talking about any of today’s stuff in 10-20 years time!
Not wishing to veer off topic but the likes of Grange Hill, Children’s Ward, Mike & Angelo nothing like it anymore. Can’t see us talking about any of today’s stuff in 10-20 years time!
What we liked as kids isn't going to be the same as what kids like today.
TV
They went from 1993, with series 1, to 1999, finishing with series 16, when the BBC lost the rights to the old episodes. I don't know whether they have the rights again now, or UKTV still have them.
I'm suprised the BBC could "lose" the rights, seeing as it was their own show. I can't think of any other shows the BBC have been unable to repeat while UKTV has been showing them, countless shows have aired on the BBC and UKTV in parelell. I guess the Mersey Television series could be a different story when it comes to who has the rights, but they didn't take over production until 2003.
The CBBC channel did repeat the 1998-2002 series (as well as the equivalent series of Byker Grove) in the early 00s.
That was just a guess, but I don’t think the BBC want to repeat a kids show from 1978. Those who want to watch it will buy the dvd or probably just watch it on YouTube.
How long did the reruns air for? There is an episode from the late 80s Chicken Man titles which refers to the current series running in the week, so they must have got through most of the 80s.
They went from 1993, with series 1, to 1999, finishing with series 16, when the BBC lost the rights to the old episodes. I don't know whether they have the rights again now, or UKTV still have them.
I'm suprised the BBC could "lose" the rights, seeing as it was their own show. I can't think of any other shows the BBC have been unable to repeat while UKTV has been showing them, countless shows have aired on the BBC and UKTV in parelell. I guess the Mersey Television series could be a different story when it comes to who has the rights, but they didn't take over production until 2003.
The CBBC channel did repeat the 1998-2002 series (as well as the equivalent series of Byker Grove) in the early 00s.
That was just a guess, but I don’t think the BBC want to repeat a kids show from 1978. Those who want to watch it will buy the dvd or probably just watch it on YouTube.
RD
I think this sort of thing has happened before, didn't the cast members of Monty Python effectively end up with ownership of their Flying Circus show/episodes even though they were made by the BBC?
Exceptional circumstances there, in Gilliam v. American Broadcasting Companies a US Court of Appeals held that the copyright in the scripts for the show belonged to the writers and not the BBC.
rdd
Founding member
I'm suprised the BBC could "lose" the rights, seeing as it was their own show.
I think this sort of thing has happened before, didn't the cast members of Monty Python effectively end up with ownership of their Flying Circus show/episodes even though they were made by the BBC?
Exceptional circumstances there, in Gilliam v. American Broadcasting Companies a US Court of Appeals held that the copyright in the scripts for the show belonged to the writers and not the BBC.