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granada or itv granada ?

how do they get away with it ? - as if we didn't know ! (October 2004)

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JC
Jack Carkdale
Juicy Joe posted:
What ITV should have done is to have renamed the HTV region by its full name HARLECH. Then you would have things such as "HARLECH NEWS" and you would have got away with "ITV HARLECH" then. That would then still remind people of HTV as it would STILL be HTV as well as getting rid of the supposedly ridiculous name of "ITV HTV".


But, as HTV literally never mentioned the full word "Harlech" (not even in small print IIRC) since about 1970, most non-"anoraks" (if we TV Forum users are "anoraks") below a certain age would not know what the H in HTV stands for, and would be unfamiliar with the word "Harlech". So, actually, changing it to "ITV Harlech" would seem more alien to most viewers than "ITV Wales/West" does!
OH
ohwhatanight Founding member
Could anyone tell me what GRANADA actually means? I have never known the reason behind the name. Whereas The Harlech brand has a reason and was changed for other purposes. Why didn't Granada follow Harlech's route and change to GTV?
LO
Londoner
ohwhatanight posted:
Could anyone tell me what GRANADA actually means?

It's Spanish for pomegranate
NE
Neil__
ohwhatanight posted:
Could anyone tell me what GRANADA actually means?

If I remember correctly, it was actually taken from an old Lancashire dialect word 'Granadan' meaning 'best you can hope for in the circumstances'.

Interestingly enough in an obscure South Cumbrian dialect (whose last native speaker died in 1958) it's a form of tripe.
IS
Inspector Sands
ohwhatanight posted:
Could anyone tell me what GRANADA actually means? I have never known the reason behind the name. Whereas The Harlech brand has a reason and was changed for other purposes. Why didn't Granada follow Harlech's route and change to GTV?


It was called Granada after the city in Spain because the founders wanted something that sounded exotic (of course this was before cheap package deals to Spain).

It wasn't chosen specifically as a name for the TV station, Granada were around long before ITV. Neither were they originally a northern company, they owned lots of cinemas in the south therefore opened their TV station in the north where it wouldn't compete with their core business
NE
Neil__
Inspector Sands posted:
It wasn't chosen specifically as a name for the TV station, Granada were around long before ITV. Neither were they originally a northern company, they owned lots of cinemas in the south therefore opened their TV station in the north where it wouldn't compete with their core business

And it only had the weekday licence for the North West (it used to be split with Redifusion, like the London split between Thames/Carlton & LWT)

Edit: just checked and I got that slightly wrong: twas shared with Associated British Corporation. And I'd forgotten that the licence was for most of Northern England (Yorkshire wasn't split off till 1968)

An interesting article on the history of ITV can be found here
NW
nwtv2003
Inspector Sands posted:
ohwhatanight posted:
Could anyone tell me what GRANADA actually means? I have never known the reason behind the name. Whereas The Harlech brand has a reason and was changed for other purposes. Why didn't Granada follow Harlech's route and change to GTV?


It was called Granada after the city in Spain because the founders wanted something that sounded exotic (of course this was before cheap package deals to Spain).

It wasn't chosen specifically as a name for the TV station, Granada were around long before ITV. Neither were they originally a northern company, they owned lots of cinemas in the south therefore opened their TV station in the north where it wouldn't compete with their core business


Also the Bernstein Brothers who founded Granada Television had a chain of Cinemas in the South of England called Granada. It was the fashion at the time to name a new ITV company after a Cinema, ABC for example was a chain of Cinemas too.
:-(
A former member
So is ITV Granada now the only English and Wales region not to be named after the region. What I mean is, ITV Wales and ITV London is, but Granada isnt.
LO
Londoner
gmtvtoday posted:
So is ITV Granada now the only English and Wales region not to be named after the region. What I mean is, ITV Wales and ITV London is, but Granada isnt.

Meridian
DB
dbl
gmtvtoday posted:
So is ITV Granada now the only English and Wales region not to be named after the region. What I mean is, ITV Wales and ITV London is, but Granada isnt.
Meridian, Tyne Tees, Border, Yorkshire, Anglia, Meridian (and Granada)
LO
Londoner
DialUpBorg posted:
Meridian, Tyne Tees, Border, Yorkshire, Anglia, Meridian (and Granada)

What are you talking about?
DB
dbl
James Hatts posted:
DialUpBorg posted:
Meridian, Tyne Tees, Border, Yorkshire, Anglia, Meridian (and Granada)

What are you talking about?
I thought he meant the regions that doesn't get branded i.e. ITV Central, ITV Westcountry, ITV London etc...

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